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Battle rages on. I've mostly given up trying to make a case for nodeBB as someone points out arbitrary rules or guidelines that fit their PoV and few of the participants fathom how modern software evolves. Perhaps they are right and nodeBB should get more coverage before it can get an article, but I'm going to suggest deletion of that horrid comparison article either way. I never look up software on WP, but the stuff that's there should be less misleading.
I started making an argument for nodeBB based on the various rules and guidelines but after reading the fifth wall of text I simply gave up. As the WP user 69.204.153.39 points out, the guidelines and whatnot are fairly bad. The others do have a point in that this is not the place to discuss changing the rules.
I can't help feeling that this is a catch 22. There are really no major blogs or sites dedicated to forums and the likes to use as a source. I searched for just that a month ago. Forums are probably regarded as outdated in the modern web but there are a lot of them out there. It seems strange that everything web is being modernised, but for forums people are happy to go with good'ol LAMP. phpBB3 is fairly new but it looks and feels like something ten years old.
Ah, well. Fun while it lasted. I hope you guys can get som good coverage and keep on fighting for the good cause. It's worth it.
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@TiaZzz Ugh, I really don't understand this literal contest of shit throwing here. I found it a good article, its a bit bare-bones but that can be changed. Wikipedia has these awful standards, if someone disagrees with the topic be prepared for a month long discussion between 2 groups. (Yey :|)
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Christ Wikipedia is serious business.
Could we not prove media coverage. There's an interview with some chap floating about the net that Julian did.
Nodebb has been mentioned in news articles dozens of times.
Include a few high end companies/users that use nodebb. If that's allowed to show off different themes or whatever. Content be King. Add sources.
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Shitshow; insular community championing moded policies in a rhetorical style of self-defense that borders upon sad.
the first forum software written in node.js is not notable? I am guessing that node is the N-word mentioned.I gave them five bucks once...
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@Kowlin said:
@Nicolas There also traces from a forum software named Luna on his talk page, no response on that. Fun stuff facedesk
This whole situation smells of trying to silence competition through desperation. im not going to pass judgment on Luna without trying it, but having firmly moved away from php. I can't see that happening. The php forum market has been over saturated since 2004.
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This Yannick guy seems to be deliberately excluding NodeBB.
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@lulzdev Yeah, but "notable" is a tar pit in itself. The rigorous rules state something like "used in education, mentioned in books" and so forth. I was also thinking a claim like this could be made, but it's probably the rules that are stagnant and then the spergs wanting the article deleted are technically right.
In the big picture nodeBB doesn't need an article. Lots of software doesn't have it. It's probably easier to make changes to the comparison article (like suggest deletion) where this all started. It's a hell of a lot easier than argue that WPs rules should be changed.
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Can we report the guy? Maybe if enough of us report him he will be removed.
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- NodeBB is forum software.
- Wikipedia has a forum software comparison page.
- There are references. And links.
- To give people a fair overview, all forum software packages (or at least popular, regularly updated ones) should be added.
- In not doing so goes against the open nature of Wikipedia.
Yes, Wikipedia is a mire of anal rules and requirements (which are equally ignored and applied at convenience), which should be a way to keep a lid on allsorts of nonsense happening, though as the above link shows it does mean some people are going to get on their high horse and abuse their position.
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@Danny-McWilliams common sense does not apply to Wiki contributors!
Joke aside, there are rules and guidelines the nay sayers are basing their stance on, and saying use "common sense" is a logical fallacy. That said, it is rather frustrating that these people seem more concerned with denying nodeBB than filtering out bad articles and seeing the bigger picture.
I've looked at previous AfD and right now the prospects for nodeBB on WP looks grim. It's not a simple matter of having more votes for keeping. I've seen other articles get deleted for double the keep votes. That may be the outcome.
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@TiaZzz I agree. Conversation should be positive - what we can do rather than what we're not doing.
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Aaaaand gone.
As expected really. nodeBB is still in the comparison list though but I wouldn't be surprised if any of the usual suspects move to have nodeBB removed.
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Deleting that article is doing a disservice to Wikipedia's readers. We should report it to Wikipedia's help desk (if they have one)
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@TiaZzz @henrywright R.I.P. NodeBB Wikipedia article.
but it was about bitcoins