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  Minutes from 7 November 2024 WG Meeting
  J julian

  @[email protected] nice tip! I'll give that a shot.

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  Ten Forward Moderation Announcement
  J julian

  @[email protected] Correct. NodeBB does handle deletes (barring some regression), and it likely wasn't federated to me.

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  #mastodon experts, do i need an HTTPSignature to read (HTTP GET) activities from mastodon ?
  J julian

  @[email protected] @[email protected] Nick is right, it depends on whether the Mastodon instance has authorized_fetch enabled, which enforces the HTTP Signature checking on GETs.

  tech.lgbt is one instance that has it turned on, so you can use that for testing.

  For me, I just sign everything, including GETs. The overhead is pretty minimal.

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  There's been a lot of hand-wringing about social media these past few months, since Jonathan Haidt published The Anxious Generation.
  J julian

  @[email protected] That's fair, and it'll all be clear in hindsight, but one thing that doesn't quite work in your parallel is that hip-hop and rock artists certainly didn't keep their own kids from listening to their work — hell, they probably encouraged it.

  Ask 10 cigarette execs, and you'll likely find that all ten will keep their kids away from cigarettes.

  The fact that actual, real, Facebook/Twitter/etc. employees keep their kids away from social media is a pretty alarming signal.

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  Ten Forward Moderation Announcement
  J julian

  @[email protected] @[email protected] For what it's worth, your post was preserved here: https://community.nodebb.org/post/https%3A%2F%2Ftechhub.social%2Fusers%2FRaccoon%2Fstatuses%2F113505643629004272

  So the content is preserved!

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  Minutes from 7 November 2024 WG Meeting
  J julian

  The full minutes from the Forum and Threaded Discussions Task Force monthly meeting (held on 7 November) can be found at this Google Docs link

  Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.

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  Of note:

  SWICG ForumWG GitHub repo used to keep track of high level discussion items

  • Repo url: https://github.com/swicg/forums
  • Issue tracker contains details regarding high-level items discussed at monthly meetings (and on the fediverse between meetings)
  • Very early draft report of Conversational Contexts in ActivityPub accessible at https://swicg.github.io/forums/ — just headers and an intro so far

  Mastodon and its treatment of non-note items

  • Darius Kazemi (@[email protected]) of Hometown put together a light fork of Mastodon that could be merged upstream. It utilises the "read more" functionality to display longer-form content and runs the content of non-note objects through the same parsing that regular notes get.
  • Emphasizes that it is not an open PR yet, while discussions are ongoing with Renaud and the Mastodon team. "This is 118 lines of code, touches 4 files. Not huge."
  • Some edge cases: How do we handle additional media beyond the cap of 4 currently in place by Mastodon?
  • Emelia (@[email protected]) also brings up concerns re: text-field length and a sensible maximum across implementations.
  • Evan (@[email protected]) brings up the possibility of this PR making it into Mastodon 4.4, Claire (@[email protected]) acknowleges the possibility
  • Darius will write up a summarization and demo video for presentation to the Mastodon team

  FEP 7888 and 76ea

  • There are still outstanding conflicts between FEPs 7888 and 76ea
    • Beyond the main difference (7888 uses as:context, 76ea uses thr:threads under a new namespace), some philosphical differences persist.
    • e.g. whether the 76ea's definition of an explicit "reply tree" is adequate to describe the multitude of shapes that a conversation can take
  • a (@[email protected]) and Evan informally pledge to work together to come to a resolution

  Voting re: FEP convergence

  • A motion was made by Julian to defer a subsequent motion regarding FEP convergence to a later to-be-determined date pending resolution of the 7888/76ea conflict
  • Majority abstained, with two ayes. Resolved.

  Context collection items: activities or objects?

  • Julian: should a resolvable context collection contain activities (create, like, EmojiReact, etc.), or simple objects?
  • Evan makes the case that simpler is better (needing to diff. activities may present a complication for implementors)
  • a suggests a reframing as a two-way negotiation of what gets declared vs. approved
  • This topic was cut short due to timing

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  Issues Integrating My Website’s Login System with NodeBB SSO Plugin
  J julian

  Hi @Ben-Stokes can you share which plugin you're using; is it sso-oauth2-multiple?

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  Question regarding email notifications
  B <baris>

  That setting changes the default for new users, it won't change the settings of existing users. And it will only apply to new notifications.

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  User accounts are mixed up and seem shared between users
  B <baris>

  Because you ran the forum without indexes you have documents that violate the index constraints. You will have to remove these documents for the create index command to work.