I understand what you guys are saying about XF but it is a great improvement on vb which I have a license that I can not sell :(
and I agree "Especially when the interface is begging to be typed on".
It's an improvement over vb but at this point that's not saying much. XF for all of it's newness still is basically a 10 year old forum running on the same concept of vb, phpbb, mybb, whatever forum of that genre.
Now you have NodeBB and Discourse as the two front runners for a new style of delivering a community experience. Exciting to see the game get stepped up. I think the average vb/xf site has dozens and dozens of plugins installed by the time it's all done, features that never get used, etc.
Why do so many people use Tapatalk on their vb/xf forums? Cause they both suck mobile. I've spent today on and off testing NodeBB with every device in the house (even the wife's Nook) and the user experience is lightning fast and you don't have to give up the look and feel.. It's much more akin to a bootstrap enabled WP site for keeping site continuity.
Didn't mean to go on a rant here.. I know we're all on this forum cause we like what's going on here.. This is my last post of the night it's 2:43am and the neighbors asshole kid is pretending he is in the next Fast and Furious movie so I have to go outside and tell him to shut the fuck up so I can get some sleep :)