Welp. It's official. #Redis is no longer #OSS While I wasn't a contributor to the core, I presented on it dozens of times, talked to thousands, and wrote a book about it.I probably wouldn't have done any of that with that kind of license.Very disappoin...

Kyle Davis

@vyr @yawnbox I might know a little bit about OpenSearch

(And Mastodon using ES over OpenSearch is baffling)

Bloody Gothic Rose 666

@linux_mclinuxface haha yeah you might! sorry, totally missed your bio

Kyle Davis

@vyr no worries! It’s just funny.

Scott Williams 🐧

@hexbatch @ThunderComplex @linux_mclinuxface It also means it's no longer going to be included in your favorite Linux distro out of box any more and a headache for all the OSS stuff built around it. Please don't minimize the impact and good will burned by stuff like this, especially for those who volunteered their time and energy in good faith that this wouldn't happen.

Daltux

@linux_mclinuxface What about forking what has already been released under a non-proprietary license?

Kyle Davis

@daltux that can be done. (It’s harder than it sounds.)

ikt 🇺🇦

@linux_mclinuxface

> I do open source stuff for #bottlerocket at AWS

https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/

Redis has been sponsoring the bulk of development alongside a dynamic community of developers eager to contribute. However, the majority of Redis’ commercial sales are channeled through the largest cloud service providers, who commoditize Redis’ investments and its open source community

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Oh... you're working for the company causing all the issues...

ikt 🇺🇦

@linux_mclinuxface

https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/

Redis has been sponsoring the bulk of development alongside a dynamic community of developers eager to contribute. However, the majority of Redis’ commercial sales are channeled through the largest cloud service providers, who commoditize Redis’ investments and its open source community

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Amazon is sucking up all the good will and hard work of open source projects, giving nothing in return, and companies are getting sick of it, no surprises here

Mosen

@linux_mclinuxface a downturn in the industry really erased a lot of goodwill but exposed an issue with the business models of opencore/freemium. lots of projects got founded on the basis that they would launch off a foss codebase and “turn on the profit” later on (somehow). Now I’m seeing quite a few scramble to close up their code. I’m not pushing patches anymore, just writing my crappy projects.

Fionn

@rmq @doboprobodyne @linux_mclinuxface @lucasmz "backed by Snap" made me assume Canonical and not Snap Inc.

Kyle Davis

@mosen I’m not sure the ‘downturn’ (which, imho, is self imposed) caused this: It started way before.

Kyle Taylor

@linux_mclinuxface won't be using #redis in my projects anymore. Memcached is a FOSS, #BSD licensed alternative that's supported by devs from Netflix. Looking to replace redis usage with memcached.

Kyle Davis

@kta that might work in some cases but last I checked memcached had a much more limited data model. If it works for you, go for it though.

Joel P.

@linux_mclinuxface There is an option called Garnet recently discussed on HN. Shows impressive performance:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39752504

Kyle Davis

@joelp the timing on that is extremely curious considering MS had blog post ready when they announced the change to Redis 🧐

Kyle Davis

How about "no", CLAassistant?

(From an 2019 doc change PR that never got merged)

bignose

@linux_mclinuxface

The #FreeSoftware fork of #Redis is already up: https://codeberg.org/redict/redict

#Redict #Copyleft #NeverSignCLA

Kyle Davis

From one of the non-Redis Inc leadership team members before the license change:

GitHub - valkey-io/valkey: A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads.

A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads. - valkey-io/valkey

GitHub (github.com)

Kyle Davis

If you haven't been following the PR, it's wild.

Matt "msw" Wilson (@[email protected])

Wow, what an overwhelming community response in this PR. It is not a surprise when something like #Redis has become so loved by its community. There’s a clear sentiment that with this change it has been taken away. I encourage folks to support #OpenSource maintainers who were doing the hard work as individuals. They didn’t ask for any of this disruption in their lives. They exist and their efforts matter. #FOSS #OSS #FreeSoftware https://github.com/redis/redis/pull/13157#issuecomment-2014355620

Mastodon 🐘 (mstdn.social)

Jeremy Stephens

@linux_mclinuxface good grief. This is rage inducing. If I had contributed to the redis source I would be very mad.