Welp. It's official. #Redis is no longer #OSS While I wasn't a contributor to the core, I presented on it dozens of times, talked to thousands, and wrote a book about it.I probably wouldn't have done any of that with that kind of license.Very disappoin...
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Kyle Davisreplied to Bloody Gothic Rose 666 on last edited by
@vyr no worries! It’s just funny.
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@hexbatch @ThunderComplex @linux_mclinuxface It also means it's no longer going to be included in your favorite Linux distro out of box any more and a headache for all the OSS stuff built around it. Please don't minimize the impact and good will burned by stuff like this, especially for those who volunteered their time and energy in good faith that this wouldn't happen.
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@linux_mclinuxface What about forking what has already been released under a non-proprietary license?
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@daltux that can be done. (It’s harder than it sounds.)
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> I do open source stuff for #bottlerocket at AWS
https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/
Redis has been sponsoring the bulk of development alongside a dynamic community of developers eager to contribute. However, the majority of Redis’ commercial sales are channeled through the largest cloud service providers, who commoditize Redis’ investments and its open source community
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https://redis.com/blog/redis-adopts-dual-source-available-licensing/
Redis has been sponsoring the bulk of development alongside a dynamic community of developers eager to contribute. However, the majority of Redis’ commercial sales are channeled through the largest cloud service providers, who commoditize Redis’ investments and its open source community
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Amazon is sucking up all the good will and hard work of open source projects, giving nothing in return, and companies are getting sick of it, no surprises here
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@linux_mclinuxface a downturn in the industry really erased a lot of goodwill but exposed an issue with the business models of opencore/freemium. lots of projects got founded on the basis that they would launch off a foss codebase and “turn on the profit” later on (somehow). Now I’m seeing quite a few scramble to close up their code. I’m not pushing patches anymore, just writing my crappy projects.
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@rmq @doboprobodyne @linux_mclinuxface @lucasmz "backed by Snap" made me assume Canonical and not Snap Inc.
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@mosen I’m not sure the ‘downturn’ (which, imho, is self imposed) caused this: It started way before.
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@linux_mclinuxface won't be using #redis in my projects anymore. Memcached is a FOSS, #BSD licensed alternative that's supported by devs from Netflix. Looking to replace redis usage with memcached.
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@kta that might work in some cases but last I checked memcached had a much more limited data model. If it works for you, go for it though.
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@linux_mclinuxface There is an option called Garnet recently discussed on HN. Shows impressive performance:
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@joelp the timing on that is extremely curious considering MS had blog post ready when they announced the change to Redis 🧐
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How about "no", CLAassistant?
(From an 2019 doc change PR that never got merged)
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The #FreeSoftware fork of #Redis is already up: https://codeberg.org/redict/redict
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From one of the non-Redis Inc leadership team members before the license change:
GitHub - valkey-io/valkey: A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads.
A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads. - valkey-io/valkey
GitHub (github.com)
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If you haven't been following the PR, it's wild.
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Jeremy Stephensreplied to Kyle Davis on last edited by
@linux_mclinuxface good grief. This is rage inducing. If I had contributed to the redis source I would be very mad.
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Kyle Davisreplied to Jeremy Stephens on last edited by [email protected]
@viking the rage is rightful, IMHO.
Changing the license of a dependency is disruptive to many thousands of people. A lot of people are just burning hours either switching to something else or talking to legal counsel to see if these non-open licenses are in any way acceptable.
Such waste heat.
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@osslate It’s a weird one. It’s easy to forget about Snap Inc.
