Welp. It's official. #Redis is no longer #OSS While I wasn't a contributor to the core, I presented on it dozens of times, talked to thousands, and wrote a book about it.I probably wouldn't have done any of that with that kind of license.Very disappoin...
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@linux_mclinuxface a downturn in the industry really erased a lot of goodwill but exposed an issue with the business models of opencore/freemium. lots of projects got founded on the basis that they would launch off a foss codebase and “turn on the profit” later on (somehow). Now I’m seeing quite a few scramble to close up their code. I’m not pushing patches anymore, just writing my crappy projects.
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@rmq @doboprobodyne @linux_mclinuxface @lucasmz "backed by Snap" made me assume Canonical and not Snap Inc.
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@mosen I’m not sure the ‘downturn’ (which, imho, is self imposed) caused this: It started way before.
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@linux_mclinuxface won't be using #redis in my projects anymore. Memcached is a FOSS, #BSD licensed alternative that's supported by devs from Netflix. Looking to replace redis usage with memcached.
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@kta that might work in some cases but last I checked memcached had a much more limited data model. If it works for you, go for it though.
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@linux_mclinuxface There is an option called Garnet recently discussed on HN. Shows impressive performance:
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@joelp the timing on that is extremely curious considering MS had blog post ready when they announced the change to Redis 🧐
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How about "no", CLAassistant?
(From an 2019 doc change PR that never got merged)
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The #FreeSoftware fork of #Redis is already up: https://codeberg.org/redict/redict
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From one of the non-Redis Inc leadership team members before the license change:
GitHub - valkey-io/valkey: A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads.
A flexible distributed key-value datastore that is optimized for caching and other realtime workloads. - valkey-io/valkey
GitHub (github.com)
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If you haven't been following the PR, it's wild.
Matt "msw" Wilson (@[email protected])
Wow, what an overwhelming community response in this PR. It is not a surprise when something like #Redis has become so loved by its community. There’s a clear sentiment that with this change it has been taken away. I encourage folks to support #OpenSource maintainers who were doing the hard work as individuals. They didn’t ask for any of this disruption in their lives. They exist and their efforts matter. #FOSS #OSS #FreeSoftware https://github.com/redis/redis/pull/13157#issuecomment-2014355620
Mastodon 🐘 (mstdn.social)
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@linux_mclinuxface good grief. This is rage inducing. If I had contributed to the redis source I would be very mad.
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Kyle Davisreplied to Jeremy Stephens on last edited by [email protected]
@viking the rage is rightful, IMHO.
Changing the license of a dependency is disruptive to many thousands of people. A lot of people are just burning hours either switching to something else or talking to legal counsel to see if these non-open licenses are in any way acceptable.
Such waste heat.
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@osslate It’s a weird one. It’s easy to forget about Snap Inc.
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@rmq @osslate @doboprobodyne @lucasmz
' It’s easy to forget about Snap Inc.'
This is such an ever-so-nerdy bubble here.
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Kyle Davisreplied to Kyle Davis on last edited by [email protected]
That was quick.
Linux Foundation launches #Valkey, a continuation of development from #Redis 7.2.4 with the same BSD 3-Clause license.
Linux Foundation Launches Open Source Valkey Community
Community maintainers, contributors, and users will continue collaborative development of an open source, in-memory data store under the new Valkey name.
(www.linuxfoundation.org)
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@linux_mclinuxface looks like Valkey already has lots of backing from big corporations. I have to wonder how good of a business decision it was for Redis to change licenses.
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@viking It's hard to beat something that is truly open
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@linux_mclinuxface Are there forks?
