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@phenomlab said in Who is using NodeBB?:
@julian I have a load of domains hosted there. They are very cheap as a registrar and they have arguably the fastest DNS on the planet.
Fast like CloudFlare?
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@scottalanmiller fastest DNS. I don't use their other services.
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@phenomlab said in Who is using NodeBB?:
@scottalanmiller fastest DNS. I don't use their other services.
I mean just DNS. CloudFlare's biggest thing has always been the fastest DNS on the market. I'd be interested who else is even in their category.
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@scottalanmiller there isn't from recollection or my own personal experience
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@phenomlab said in Who is using NodeBB?:
@scottalanmiller there isn't from recollection or my own personal experience
I'm confused, lol. Are you saying you use CloudFlare too for DNS?
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@julian I doubt Cloudflare will abandon their domain registry even if it doesn't make them much money (they might just raise prices to have some profit... which is how most registrars do it anyway, they claim to be selling at essentially registrar prices), since their core product is related to providing DNS. They have a relatively limited TLD support for now though, but it's getting better and obviously have the most popular options.
Also, they probably won't kick you off, considering it took literal terrorism for them to drop 8chan and a long public campaign to drop Kiwifarms...I don't think DigitalOcean has a registrar, so that's probably not an option.
I remember that Namecheap had problems with very slow responses to abuse reports (phishing mostly), but apparently they improved a lot on this front, so they're probably fine now - but I don't have much experience with them outside of that aspect.
An option I personally went with for a domain that CF doesn't support is Porkbun. Decent pricing (also they have a $1 off promotion on transfers from Google Domains), some sense of humor and the company is owned by the creator of ICANNWiki, so they seem to be all-in on domains
Personally I also use OVH, but that's primarily for
.pldomains (and a single.ukthat they apparently missed the price increase for, so I'm paying below registrar prices for it...), but I'm not sure if I'd recommend them over other options like CF. -
@oplik0 said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
@julian I doubt Cloudflare will abandon their domain registry even if it doesn't make them much money
I'd say especially because of this. It's a zero profit item and they knew that going in. So it has no need to make money. They make bank in other areas, they are enormous now. And the cost of being a registrar is extremely low. So I'm sure it doesn't even show up on their radar.
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@scottalanmiller I'd say it's less that cost of being a registrar is extremely low in general (support, and especially handling abuse, does require some headcount), but rather that it integrates cleanly into all of their other services as they need to handle most of the stuff related to domains anyway:
- DNS management? That's part of their core service
- Abuse reporting for domains? They proxy domains anyway, so they're handling a lot of this anyway (they do block domains for phishing or malware at least)
- Support that knows how domains and DNS works? Again, they need this for their core service
- TLS? Again, they do that for their core service
- heck, they're even offering stuff like email forwarding for any domain that uses them as DNS, so no need to do it separately
So they just profit from what most others need to use as bonus incentives to buy domains from them
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@oplik0 said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
just a month later, let Squarespace announce that they're killing (selling) Google Domains
They sold the Domain Registrar, they still own the TLD side of the business.
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I'm also still have doubts regarding all those new gTLDs that are coming in drives. Regardless, I caved in and purchased a .community for my site. Namecheap have that first year discount.
I remember somewhere that you have to pay $100k or something at the very least if you want to have your own .customdomain
Has there ever been recorded in history that a generic top level domain has dieded because of the Domain Registrar couldn't afford to renew the contract? Be it due to few people using it, etc
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@scottalanmiller said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
I'm confused, lol. Are you saying you use CloudFlare too for DNS?
Yes
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@cat said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
I remember somewhere that you have to pay $100k or something at the very least if you want to have your own .customdomain
In the last round it was $185k, but that's the application fee - maintenance costs around $25k a year + $0.25 per domain if there are more than 50k registered domains under that TLD. And this is assuming there isn't any conflict with the registration. Auctions ended much higher than 185k. AFAIK
.webis the current record holder at $135 million.And the cost for the next round is expected to be higher...
ICANN literally doesn't even know what to do with all this money. Especially since they ended up with a lot more than expected from auctions. They had to create a "New gTLD Auction Proceeds Cross-Community Working Group" whose work, after 5 years, resulted in creation of ICANN Grant Giving Program, which suggests they still have no real idea of what to do with it so just created a way for others to suggest their own ideas.
Has there ever been recorded in history that a generic top level domain has dieded because of the Domain Registrar couldn't afford to renew the contract? Be it due to few people using it, etc
I don't think so, and theoretically the initial cost includes money ICANN allocates for related contingencies (I think mainly lawsuits, but suspect it could be used to hold an auction for a failing gTLD). Not to mention that unless it's a specific brand TLD the owner would likely try to sell it themselves first.
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@phenomlab said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
@scottalanmiller said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
I'm confused, lol. Are you saying you use CloudFlare too for DNS?
Yes
OOHHHH, cool. Yes, me too obviously. Definitely the best DNS host. Although the speed doesn't do anything really for day to day site usage, it sure makes making adjustments quick and easy.
You should try out their proxy services. They are the best and free.
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@scottalanmiller said in .zip and .mov TLDs:
You should try out their proxy services. They are the best and free.
Sorry for the confusion!!
I've tried the proxy services and to be honest, I landed up with more issues (mostly because of their Bot Fight Mode that had a detrimental effect on my site's SEO) so abandoned it. I still use CF for DNS, although I have to admit that AWS's Route 53 is also excellent. I've literally just changed a record and had it populate in 60 seconds. -
@phenomlab I understand up writing a WAF rule that bypass bot fight mode for Googles ASN and Bings ASN so long as the user agent matches.
This works out because both Microsoft and Google use a different ASN for services like bing and Google search, than what they use for their cloud service offerings.
