@ron_jeremy said:

As for the hosting, if you're hellbent on hosting it yourself, you're going to want to at least proxy the node.js stuff via Apache or nginx or some other reverse proxy webserver, but that still won't stop it from being easily DoS'ed .....

Here is your red flag. Everyone who doesn't know web development and design in the real world focuses on being DoS attacked. Why? Because it is the cool, scary word that they heard on TV. Wake up to the real world, only a handful of massive websites or really aggravating groups get DoS'd in the real world. This isn't a threat for normal people and normal websites. This is a completely naive thing to be concerned about for a forum of this nature. I run the tech site of the busiest NodeBB forum that we know of (tens of thousands of posts per thread, millions of views on a single thread, nearly a thousand daily posts, over 10K views an hour) and these concerns are quite simply, silly.

This is what a little kid trying to talk about IT sounds like. In the real world, being DoS attacked is not something that happens every day. That takes time and energy and requires someone with a goal. And if you want to protect against it, which I've needed to do, the platform that you run on isn't where that tooling is going to be.

I'd stop talking to this guy.

A little tooting of our own horn, but today is the fifth anniversary of the MangoLassi IT Pro Community which started in 2014 running on NodeBB since day one. Still growing after five years and a great partnership with NodeBB that has done so much to make it all possible for us.

@kinderjaje said:

@a_5mith "we charge $95 USD per hour" that is a quote from Julian, so freelancer i look cant cost that bro. With due respect for everyone works on nodebb and their own values, but for me that is sick price.

That's actually crazy low and I would recommend to the NodeBB guys that they reconsider working for anything so low. They are a unique resource and can do custom work at a rate and efficiency that no one else can touch. No one. I totally understand that you can't afford them, that's not cheap to a home user. But this is Node.js development we are talking about. At $95/hour these guys are literally doing work as a favor.

I work for a consulting firm and if you wanted us to look at this we'd be 50%-100% higher and we don't have the kinds of Node.js and certainly not the NodeBB skills that they have. That's just basic market price. Anyone capable of doing this work is going to be very expensive. Even if you live in a low cost area, Node.js skills are universal so people doing that work there can get paid to work in NYC, London or Toronto remotely or relocated to where the work is.

You can find cheaper people out there, sure. But you can't find better ROI or TCO, I guarantee it.

Is this the longest one? We have been waiting to hit the landmark 10K posts. And we just did it minutes ago. Not a very meaningful thread, but epic in length and views (but not the most viewed every, second as far as we know.)

10,000 posts in a single thread

Feel free to pop in and contribute? ML is a technical community so perfect place for NodeBB admins to hang out too! And a great place to push the performance limits of NodeBB.

@kenygamer said in Run two nodebb ionsame server:

@pichalite said in Run two nodebb ionsame server:

@kenygamer you don't know how to run 2 installs of NodeBB on the same server and you are offering installation and support for others for a fee?

Stop scamming people.

Ssshhhh, I'm not hosting two NodeBB's on the same server, that's stupid
I offer a VPS for every installation, i dont host two on the same

Stupid? That's very, very smart. Why would you split up the applications?

@kenygamer said in Run two nodebb ionsame server:

@AOKP Because i dont (yet) have money to afford a big vps

So.... what does that mean for your customers? It only takes a $5 VPS to have many NodeBB instances. Is it that your customers total revenue is under $5? I'm confused. You would have to be spending way too much money to have one VPS per instance, yet you say your are too poor. Those two things don't go together.

MangoLassi is still going strong, after 4.5 years on NodeBB; and they just announced their third annual conference for May. And they just hit a new volume of monthly traffic...

Just saying hey, as we've not been on here a lot for a while, as things have been running so smoothly.

We are nearing our fifth anniversary on NodeBB and we still constantly get compliments that the site is so screaming fast and responsive and makes interacting a pleasure. It's been a great journey so far and we just keep growing.

Testing this out for us now.

Not much of a script but here it is...

git fetch; git pull; ./nodebb stop; npm i; ./nodebb upgrade; npm i; ./nodebb start; ./nodebb log

And for the 1.7.0 to 1.7.1 release we had to switch to this...

git fetch; git pull; ./nodebb stop; npm i; rm -rf ./node_modules/eslint* ; npm i commander; ./nodebb upgrade; npm i; ./nodebb start; ./nodebb log

Obviously our backups are not in that script, we do that manually (not sure why, actually.) Probably because we backup up to ten minutes ahead of doing the actual update as we can do that without impact and ensure we are at a lull before going down for a few seconds. So we keep it manual. We don't have a copy of the main database that we use for testing, but we have a series of separate sites that run the same code that range from pure test (their own data, but no live users) to insanely low use (users less than once a week) to moderate use but non-business before getting to the big main site. So we use that as our testing profile.

I think that the hardest part is figuring out how to define "known users" without making it a big manual hassle that essentially breaks the usage.

I think that that might come down to the Akismet service, not sure that anything can be done about that.

@julian said in May Docker Discussion:

Interesting recent discussion re: Docker

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20059207

Some parallels to what was discussed here

Totally true. People put so much into each new thing that they hear about thinking that it is going to change the world, without any clear idea of what problem it is even trying to address!

@julian said in May Docker Discussion:

@scottalanmiller oh you could say that with most of the js libraries that come out. JavaScript has been the new hotness for the last little while and it shows

Very true.

@julian said in Search options for 2019 NodeBB:

Dbsearch is the recommendation

This is what we are using now. We used to use Solr but it had issues and we came back.

@gotwf Thanks.

Sorry I was AWOL yesterday. I was in that Canton, TX tornado! Okay, not "in" it, but was in Canton when it happened.

One thing that I fear from Docker is the community. It's the latest buzzword and hype and because of that, most people using it see it as some magic panacea, and that creates hubris, and hubris leads to instability and insecurity. People who think technology is magic and not subject to the normal rules or rigors are how bad things happen.

Did you run the NodeBB installation routine? It creates this database for you.

@julian said in May Docker Discussion:

Docker wasn't meant to ease operations, was it? It was mostly to allow devs to sync up their environments to match prod... or so I thought

Neither, I don't think. It isn't fundamentally designed for any production use, the design of it makes little sense for that. The idea was allowing devs to test quickly without going through operational scrutiny. Fast testing, which is where it remains good.

@julian said in May Docker Discussion:

Docker for dev definitely has its applications, I think... the onboarding aspect, as you say.

However, I'm still kind of against docker in production... containers, sure.

This is the biggest problem with Docker, I think, it makes things seem easy for developers and creates invisible challenges for operations.