Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...
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Pgsql v10 works perfectly for us (although our forum is tiny so it may not be a good test case). @Ben-Lubar however, did a number of performance comparison to mongo-DB, and it looks like pgsql is on par. You can follow his work in tdwtf. Good luck!
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@JJSagan said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Pgsql v10 works perfectly for us (although our forum is tiny so it may not be a good test case). @Ben-Lubar however, did a number of performance comparison to mongo-DB, and it looks like pgsql is on par. You can follow his work in tdwtf. Good luck!
Ah, finally a pgsql person weighs in. I figured I'd opt for 11.x and see how it went, in absence of other infos.
tdwtf is pretty slow from my location comparitively. Maybe network issues? pings are not too bad and they're kind of boggy for at least one other as well so I was suspecting else.
I'm not really interested in registering there just so I can use search. Any relevant pointers appreciated.
Thanks bunches o/
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Not much to learn from my experience, since my #users/day is pathetic.
As for tdwtf, I personally don't believe it would have been faster with Mongo, but I could be wrong. I looked but unfortunately I could not find the exact benchmark chart I was referring to earlier. Nevertheless, see here: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/25362/so-about-that-postgresql-thing/8?lang=en-US&page=1Finally, you should consider visiting tdwtf often, the posts there are among the funniest I have ever encountered
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@JJSagan said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Not much to learn from my experience, since my #users/day is pathetic.
As for tdwtf, I personally don't believe it would have been faster with Mongo, but I could be wrong. I looked but unfortunately I could not find the exact benchmark chart I was referring to earlier. Nevertheless, see here: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/25362/so-about-that-postgresql-thing/8?lang=en-US&page=1Finally, you should consider visiting tdwtf often, the posts there are among the funniest I have ever encountered
Thanks bunches, mon! That link is the kind of stuff I want to digest. I'm on it
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@gotwf said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Sure, I could spin up a Linux vm, but I already been there, done that and there are good reasons I prefer SmartOS (yeah, even over fbsd server side).
So SmartOS is your planned NodeBB deployment platform?
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@JJSagan said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Not much to learn from my experience, since my #users/day is pathetic.
As for tdwtf, I personally don't believe it would have been faster with Mongo, but I could be wrong. I looked but unfortunately I could not find the exact benchmark chart I was referring to earlier. Nevertheless, see here: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/25362/so-about-that-postgresql-thing/8?lang=en-US&page=1Finally, you should consider visiting tdwtf often, the posts there are among the funniest I have ever encountered
Holy cow, I didn't realize that we were busier than them! I figured that they were the busier site. So our MongoDB is handling more traffic. Still crazy busy, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
@gotwf said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Sure, I could spin up a Linux vm, but I already been there, done that and there are good reasons I prefer SmartOS (yeah, even over fbsd server side).
So SmartOS is your planned NodeBB deployment platform?
Yes. Or at least was when I was using Redis for an experimental testing site that is no longer extant. Now I will test under PostgreSQL and see how it goes. Might need to retract to fbsd and mongodb if that does not prove out well.
I am completely off AWS and DO. SmartOS has become my platform of choice, as my SmartOS vm's provide noticeably greater bang for the buck, even if the 'stats' seem like less. Joyent is just more honest about it - and/or maybe zones provide better and/or more consistent resource management. It has been a few years since I tested the competition, however, mayhaps things have changed. Not worth my time to go test again though cuz I am a pretty happy camper where I am
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@scottalanmiller said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
@JJSagan said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Not much to learn from my experience, since my #users/day is pathetic.
As for tdwtf, I personally don't believe it would have been faster with Mongo, but I could be wrong. I looked but unfortunately I could not find the exact benchmark chart I was referring to earlier. Nevertheless, see here: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/25362/so-about-that-postgresql-thing/8?lang=en-US&page=1Finally, you should consider visiting tdwtf often, the posts there are among the funniest I have ever encountered
Holy cow, I didn't realize that we were busier than them! I figured that they were the busier site. So our MongoDB is handling more traffic. Still crazy busy, though.
Aye... so now... we gots a significantly busier MongoDB based site that is substantially snappier than the only moderate to large PostgreSQL example that I am aware of. Which once again begs the question: Why?
Should be an adventure. I'll keep y'all posted
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@gotwf said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
Might need to retract to fbsd and mongodb if that does not prove out well.
Can't find a FreeBSD package of MongoDB. Does that have a supported install?
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@julian said in Mongodb or PostgreSQL? Ah, that is the question...:
too many variables to know for sure. They could be like us and host NodeBB on a potato server
Yeah, our NodeBB platform has some muscle behind it, and CloudFlare in front. That all helps, a lot. Our working set is 100% in RAM with loads of overhead. We always have threads idle. Although we also serve several other communities off of the same machine, it's a shared server.
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Just an update to note that I've bailed on SmartOS and PostgreSQL due to too many bumps in the road in favor of sticking with a well supported platform. Which pretty much translates to: "what the dev heads are using...".
I use fbsd for our in house stuff that I keep updated via build server and internal lan. When I need cloud scale smartos or linux are the best options. To wit I have not even tried fbsd and pgsql so cannot weigh in there.
Thanks for all the insights. I'll probably be back to bug ya' before too long.
o/
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Much thanks to @scottalanmiller for the advice and an embarrassing amount of hand holding. I'm now rocking an nginx tls proxied nodebb sporting Centos7, mongodb, and redis for session management.
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@gotwf Thanks.
Sorry I was AWOL yesterday. I was in that Canton, TX tornado! Okay, not "in" it, but was in Canton when it happened.
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G gotwf referenced this topic on
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pkg search mongodb
mongodb-tools-100.9.4 Tools for MongoDB 4.4.x and up
mongodb44-4.4.26 Distributed document-oriented "NoSQL" database (4.4.x Branch)
mongodb50-5.0.23 Distributed document-oriented "NoSQL" database (5.0.x Branch)
mongodb60-6.0.12 Distributed document-oriented "NoSQL" database (6.0.x Branch)
mongodb70-7.0.4 Distributed document-oriented "NoSQL" data -
Currently, which DB is better for nodebb between mongodb and postgres?
