Is there a "normie" or more mainstream instance for Lemmy?

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I appreciate the well thought response. I habe quibbles but overall agree with you.

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Oh I don't know much about those, I'll take a look! Thanks!

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Oh neat, I'll take a look! Thanks!

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It's... Fine for me, I'm learning to just eye roll and move on but it can sometimes be fairly u pleasant and aggressively Left. (I think I got called a fascist for pointing out problems with PR electoral systems with a "how dare you oppose a system that..."

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This is some incel logic.

"Women won't date me so I'll call them bitches and sluts!"

"People don't vote for my side so I'll say they're enabling fascism!"

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Something like that! This seems like a solveable problem...

ShadowRam

That's a very absolutist view of the meaning of Capitalism.

With that view, how could anyone be against Capitalism then?

It's technically never been tried with that definition.

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Oh, it bugs me sometimes but I'm a believer in what the fediverse is trying to do.

It's more that I just think our loud minority make engaging much less enjoyable, which then blocks the growth needed to get the niche interests and content etc. Why write a comment or post a meme if a bunch of comments are going to be dicks about it?

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Good points!

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Ahahaha, hadn't even noticed that!

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If you are making alternatives to republicanism more unpleasant and unappealing to the people whom we need to persuade, well, it seems like you are aiding fascism...

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Generally, classically I've understood Socialism to still involve central planning of industry/production.

Whereas most modern socialist democracies tend to heavily regulate industry and enact social welfare programs to minimize the effects of different classes etc.

NONE

Too bad that's your experience. Yes it is true that some comrades can get "intense" at times. I think that, more than the ideas, it is how to express them that is at fault by their part.

Diva (she/her)

“People don’t vote for my side so I’ll say they’re enabling fascism!”

iconic, I've been repeatedly told by liberals that because I voted third party that I'm essentially a trump voter.

that wasn't what was said though.

they said that liberals created the material conditions for fascism. i.e. by suppressing the left and only offering up warmongering and genocide they created a situation where someone like trump could get elected. again.

a fair number of the people who are on this platform are here specifically because oligarch-owned media sites heavily censor all left wing speech, and have done so for many years.

Rikudou_Sage

My instance doesn't really take a political stance, you're welcome unless you're an extremist (left or right, doesn't really matter to me).

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Respectfully, Adam Smith did not invent capitalism. So why even bother bringing him up? I know it's what the indoctrinated have often been selectively fed. But he is no final word on capitalism other than the American system.

Even then he needs to be understood in the context of the times he lived in. He was very Progressive and educated for his time. But even if he believed that government should have some say in capitalism. Government back then meant wealthy white land owning males. I.E the capital class. I.E Capital controlling capital. Not the workers. Not women. Capitalism has always been about oligarchy.

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I don’t think it helps that politics absolutely dominates Lemmy, where Reddit has enough diverse subreddits that you could probably just avoid politics all together.

I think that's the problem with all "alternative" social media... both ones that I like and stand behind like lemmy... and the opposite end, the Parlors, MeWe's, Truth Social etc...

The point is... mainstream people talking about shows, video games etc... rarely hit any kind of limitations in the public spaces. I myself still go on reddit to see communities of specific shows, games etc... and... it's fine for that. If I were to try and make the suggestion for a show or movie subreddit to move to lemmy, it would be a tough case.

The ones who see the flaws and limits of the corporate platform... are the ones either teetering at the edge of socially acceptable, or over it.

Whether that's say us lefties that believe All Cops are Bastards, or right wing guys that think america was better in Jim Crow era. Bottom line is... people looking for alternatives, are doing so because the existing platforms are likely to censor them... which means the alternatives will be disproportionately more extreme.

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It's not absolutist. Mildly reductive perhaps. But not remotely absolutist.

How could anyone be for it? It's literally rule by the wealthy. It was a response created by wealthy mercantilist. Frustrated that no matter how much money they had there was an echelon of power always denied to them.

It's always been tried with that definition. At the founding of the United States, wealthy white land owning males. The capital class with all the capital controlled it. It was oligarchy from it's establishment. It was more beneficial on average than mercantilism. But still a failure.

Even today in China. The vanguard, their capital controlling class controls and regulates their state capitalism. Capital regulates capitalism. Not the people.

Buelldozer

‘Left-wing’ in casual use in the US refers to “everyone except the Republicans and some moderates”, but “left-wing” in any serious political talk refers to anti-capitalism.

Please list the mainstream "leftist" parties in any G20 nation that are "anti-capitalist"; and by mainstream I mean they have more than two representatives at the federal level.

Buelldozer

Respectfully, Adam Smith did not invent capitalism...But he is no final word on capitalism other than the American system.

So the Scottish Economist who is often described as the "Father of Capitalism", the guy who was teaching Capitalism before the United States even existed is somehow irrelevant?

In your opinion the guy who literally defined Capitalism and then ran all over Europe destroying Mercantilism with his ideas is only relevant, maybe, to the United States?

Say w0t?