Wide Cars
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mothra@mander.xyzreplied to Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod last edited by
So... The car equivalent of adding those extra cucumber slices to the burger so it doesn't count as a confectionery item?
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Zementreplied to someamateur@sh.itjust.works last edited by
Remember the times when Humvees were considered big and stupid to drive in civilian applications?
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To be brief, some boneheads ages past decided to class vehicles based on footprint rather than simply weight.
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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️replied to pancho_bq@lemmy.world last edited by
I like how the wing mirrors look like actual wings.
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rivalarrival@lemmy.todayreplied to mothra@mander.xyz last edited by
No, you're not understanding me correctly. Mostly because I misspoke, so that's on me, not you.
The contact patches I was talking about are the corners of the rectangle. Everything between the wheels is the footprint.
The area of the footprint basically determines the minimum MPG you can have. (The more complicated point is that it is related to all the vehicles you produce rather than a specific minimum, but that overcomplicates the issue. The point is that CAFE standards provide strong incentives for manufacturers to increase the "footprints" of their vehicles. The larger the footprint they can claim, the less MPG improvement they need to make. So, longer and wider wheelbases.
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rivalarrival@lemmy.todayreplied to Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod last edited by
*NHTSA, but yes.
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malreynolds@slrpnk.netreplied to pancho_bq@lemmy.world last edited by
In all honesty, the wideness of modern cars may actually be their downfall. I live in a suburban area (Not US, but that doesn't matter it's become everyone's problem.) and the roads were designed for cars to be parked on either side and two, narrow lanes in the middle where people could, slowly, get past each other, with a certain amount of tolerance (i.e. space).
Then came an EPA ruling in the states (late 90's I think) and trucks were immune to sensible laws and all the car companies made trucks that were immune to being too wide (among other things). They became objects of desire. Cars followed, because everyone wants a thick phallus I guess, or maybe needs to see the road when there's a fat car next to them, or one with tinted windows, and I'm nowhere near to a legal solution in a global economy.
Practical upshot, local roads are only one lane wide because of fat cars parked on either side with no regard to practicality, add endless renovation because property development is the one true way to richness /s, even though rich people already own the good land, and control their local environment.
TLDR, fat cars break suburban roads.
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ilovethebomb@lemm.eereplied to gluwu@lemm.ee last edited by
This comment has been made before, and the feedback from people who actually drive them is nobody is driving a dually for fun, the suspension just isn't set up to be driven empty. Also, they're massive vehicles even by US standards.
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wooki@lemmy.worldreplied to pancho_bq@lemmy.world last edited by
Nothing wrong with public transport
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someamateur@sh.itjust.worksreplied to Zement last edited by
Always have been. H2s were the cybertrucks of their day
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mothra@mander.xyzreplied to rivalarrival@lemmy.today last edited by
Thanks for the explanation. It's just infuriating
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I get it now. Not a chance that's changing anytime soon I suppose, I can see how it's not convenient for manufacturers
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madison420@lemmy.worldreplied to ilovethebomb@lemm.ee last edited by
People absolutely do drive duallys for fun, ask any mechanic.
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timduncant@lemmy.worldreplied to madison420@lemmy.world last edited by
Can confirm, am diesel mechanic.
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emerald@lemmy.worldreplied to carbonicedragon@pawb.social last edited by
I don't think anyone doubts how much time, money, and effort are put into road infrastructure. In fact, I think about it a lot when driving.
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emerald@lemmy.worldreplied to pancho_bq@lemmy.world last edited by
Lol I don't understand why people want wide cars. There are so many instances where having a narrow car saved me from some dinguses crossing the center line
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roopappy@lemmy.worldreplied to pancho_bq@lemmy.world last edited by
I often see a car in a crowded parking lot that is too wide or too long to fit in a parking spot, and I have to wonder if the person driving that vehicle is a complete idiot or a complete asshole.
How stupid are you that you chose a daily driver that doesn't work? That you take up so much space that everyone else needs to actively avoid you and curse you because you are so bad at making choices?
Do you regret your choice? Do you constantly think "Fuck everyone else around me, I do what I want.", or do you legitimately not notice how everyone else hates you?
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commissarvulpin@lemmy.worldreplied to rivalarrival@lemmy.today last edited by
And this is exactly why we don’t see small trucks like Rangers or Dakotas anymore. I don’t know if it’s because it’s impossible to make an engine that efficient or if manufacturers are just lazy, but the consequence is that they can avoid stricter efficiency requirements by simply making bigger (larger wheelbase) and heavier (body on frame vs. monocoque) vehicles.
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commissarvulpin@lemmy.worldreplied to someamateur@sh.itjust.works last edited by
They were designed so that the wheels would be the same width as the tracks on an Abrams tank.