The Secret of Universe

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It's feedback that says: What you have said is unacceptable here and you have been shown the door because of your actions as we will not tolerate those actions.

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What the fuck do you think it means then? Because otherwise everyone, everywhere has the freedom to do everything, but for some of them you don't have freedom from consequences...

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You are never free from consequences.

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Except you are free from some consequences, that's exactly why there are laws in place, to delimit what you can do without retaliation, and what you cannot.

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So there are consequences with free speech?

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A better truism by someone actually wise is that there is no such thing as free speech.

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Yes, there are, some fairly harmless, some much more impactfull. Getting a dislike from a comment is a consequence, although very benign. Getting boycotted or banned from a platform is another consequence, which could be quite devastating.

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So you admit that certain types of speech when used have consequences even though free spech exists.

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Nice, so you decided to use hate speech against him

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You are free to walk down the streets of Harlem with an "I hate niggers" sign. The law still protects you from assault or other actions that others may take against you. You may get fired from your job for such an action, but even then you would still have the right to pursue a wrongful dismissal case.

As for libel/slander. First of all, it's a civil issue, and you won't be jailed for it. Secondly, in the US it requires a significant burden of proof. A plaintiff must show it was more likely than not that:

there were actual damages.
the statements were false.
the person knew the statements were false.
the person intended the statements to be harmful.
There's also anti-SLAPP laws which provide additional protection from entities attempting to use a lawsuit to stop speech.

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No, it is an accusation. Hate speech would be calling him names based of ethnicity or some other quality they cannot change.

Way to show your lack of understanding.

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So you're saying there are consequences for using hate speech.

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In a way... I admit that ALL types of free speech when used can have SOME consequences.

The issue I have with your original statement is that you put all consequences in the same basket... With that logic you can say that freedom to vote does not mean freedom from consequences, therefore you can't complain that I try to indimidate anyone if front of the booth

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The issue I have with your argument is you have backtracked on the fact that consequences exist and I never mentioned who would be enforcing said consequences or what they would be.

You assumed what I meant, ran with it and now are complaining because you had to shift your position where the original statement I made still holds.

I said CONSEQUENCES, not what ones.

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Technically you have no influence on being a bastard

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This is why don't feed the trolls was a popular refrain. Those people want a response, and banning is a response. It's a tough line for moderation though, and why shadow banning exists.

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And the meaning has also shifted away from your parents not being wed when you are born.

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That you may have to get the justice system involved to support your rights. I suppose you can call that a consequence.

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So consequences exist for free speech. Thank you for finally getting on board.

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I know, I know