Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.

omega

@eeeee I am native posting only

omega

Going where no fediverse topic has gone before... not!

String Theory: The Mathematics of Moving Beyond Current Physics

String theory claims the dimensions of space and time that we observe are a result of vibrations of microscopic energy strings.

ThoughtCo (www.thoughtco.com)

String theory is a mathematical theory that tries to explain certain phenomena which is not currently explainable under the standard model of quantum physics.

30 words or less people!

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Omega, From your descriptive posts I thought you were a writer, but now a Physicist!
Many talents

omega

@eeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?

omega

Personally I think the word Federated is being used as if it was the word disseminated, which to me is more descriptively apt for common understanding.

“your post is disseminated across multiple platforms at once… across the fediverse… and you are like a sun, each post a ray of light that eventually reaches planets... soon disparate planetary religions spring up worshipping your name spanning light years across many galaxies”

Maybe not the last bit

Federated as it is used rather than it’s definition, seems more like a conflation shorthand of federation and dissemination into a single word placeholder, this might be my very personally arcane issue.

omega

Here is an edited version of the wiki entry for the fediverse:

The fediverse is a collection of social networks that can communicate with each other using a common protocol. Users of different websites can send and receive status updates, multimedia files and other data across the network.

omega

How about... the fediverse is like what happens when you build a bunch of interstates between big websites

You could get into railroad and telegraph analogies to, draw your frame. It's the quantum location superposition of your post that's kinda the pickle to explain to the average noodle, or is it?

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@omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:

@eeeee I always get a Schrödinger's cat vibe off these fediverse topics am I the only one?

Absolutely, you never know if fediverse posts did or didnt propagate, until they are observed! Haha

omega

Hmmm @[email protected] is it possible for whatever reason your posts no. 6 and no. 10 in this topic, were not originally available for me to read yesterday/ but I am reading them today, one was a reply to me (but saw no notification) other than that maybe I scrolled past too fast and missed them

omega

@eeeee Ha ha maybe you answered my last post as I was writing it!

Plus there is another maybe even better word i.e. federated > disseminated / propagated

I believe propagate/propagation is even more accurate way to describe the adventures of efforts in the fediverse!

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One thing that hasnt really been tested yet, is volumes, and the data that needs to be shared if say contribitors are on different networks.
On your physics theme then the data share is potentially exponential as more people join the conversation.
Imagine a thread with 100 different origin posts and the updates required to keep everyone in sync

omega

@eeeee When you wrote Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:

a thread with 100 different origin posts

Do you mean each post originating first post action and commitment occurred on a different platform while the entire thread of 100 post is potentially equally visible on each of those different platforms all at the same time?

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@omega yes, so post 101 could need to go to the previous (up to) 100 servers so those threads are in sync

omega

@eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?

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@omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:

@eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?

Two, they talk about up and down spin
Analagous to up and down voting on Nodebb lol

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Incidentally @omega, I direct messaged on you here a while ago, did you see it?
It appears our federated convo working better than local one

julian

@eeeee @omega if you are attempting to communicate to a remote account (outside of this NodeBB instance), it must be done publicly. Non-public messages received by NodeBB are rejected because NodeBB does not support the concept of limited post visibility at this time.

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@julian as I contributed to this thread also from my mastodon account, should that account (in principle) be getting notified of additional comments on here?
Its currently not, which does negate the observation that data transfer would increase as more people join a topic. However the exponential propagation previously mentioned does not seem to be working - its only on nodebb that this thread is expanding now?

Edit: ^might be a Mastondon issue, as the Discourse version is expanding. Its just my mastodon version that isnt.

Edit2; Test to see if edits are updated yet

julian

@eeeee Mastodon doesn't notify you unless you are explicitly mentioned.

In NodeBB when you reply, you subscribe to the topic (unless you opt out or "unwatch" it), but that doesn't happen in Mastodon.

NodeBB could propagate additional replies to Mastodon and other softwares, it doesn't right now.

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Edits arent reflected still. In theory can AcitivtyPub repost an updated post easily, or does it have no ability to retract a post to resend a corrected one?