Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.

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One thing that hasnt really been tested yet, is volumes, and the data that needs to be shared if say contribitors are on different networks.
On your physics theme then the data share is potentially exponential as more people join the conversation.
Imagine a thread with 100 different origin posts and the updates required to keep everyone in sync

omega

@eeeee When you wrote Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:

a thread with 100 different origin posts

Do you mean each post originating first post action and commitment occurred on a different platform while the entire thread of 100 post is potentially equally visible on each of those different platforms all at the same time?

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@omega yes, so post 101 could need to go to the previous (up to) 100 servers so those threads are in sync

omega

@eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?

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@omega said in Explaining the fediverse is a hard problem.:

@eeeee In the context of this topic how many quantum instances might exist out in the fediverse?

Two, they talk about up and down spin
Analagous to up and down voting on Nodebb lol

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Incidentally @omega, I direct messaged on you here a while ago, did you see it?
It appears our federated convo working better than local one

julian

@eeeee @omega if you are attempting to communicate to a remote account (outside of this NodeBB instance), it must be done publicly. Non-public messages received by NodeBB are rejected because NodeBB does not support the concept of limited post visibility at this time.

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@julian as I contributed to this thread also from my mastodon account, should that account (in principle) be getting notified of additional comments on here?
Its currently not, which does negate the observation that data transfer would increase as more people join a topic. However the exponential propagation previously mentioned does not seem to be working - its only on nodebb that this thread is expanding now?

Edit: ^might be a Mastondon issue, as the Discourse version is expanding. Its just my mastodon version that isnt.

Edit2; Test to see if edits are updated yet

julian

@eeeee Mastodon doesn't notify you unless you are explicitly mentioned.

In NodeBB when you reply, you subscribe to the topic (unless you opt out or "unwatch" it), but that doesn't happen in Mastodon.

NodeBB could propagate additional replies to Mastodon and other softwares, it doesn't right now.

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Edits arent reflected still. In theory can AcitivtyPub repost an updated post easily, or does it have no ability to retract a post to resend a corrected one?

julian

NodeBB sends the update. Mastodon doesn't accept it for some reason, it's something I've yet to figure out.

Does the update propagate to Discourse?

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Yes, the Discorse thread version doesnt accept edit updates either.
I think if the bar is set so that different nodebb sites can fully connect then thats enough, as nobody can control what 3rd parties do

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Test1, mentioning a user at a different nodebb server @[email protected]

Test2 @[email protected]

Edit: connecting between nodebb instances doesnt seem to be working, which is more concerning.
I tried it both ways, mentions from and to there

@julian just to help me test, are usernames case sensitive? I have some capital letters in a username on another nobebb site, do I need to ensure they are in the correct case?

julian

@eeeee user slugs are always lower case. @[email protected] didn't get the notification? That's odd.

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No, also that account 'Knows no servers again' even though I follow myself here.

Incidentally some world links on here, I may try and follow the user but get this broken link image

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On isurg the install is a week old, so maybe there have been updates since. As mentioned before without a numbering system its hard to know when out of date.
Whats the planned time for releasing v4 in main? I think now, the sooner thats done the better. It wont affect those who dont want to activate it

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@omega @Kichae @baris @julian

I think the only problem here is you assume people should be able to "grok" it.

I don't think that's a problem. I think people should be able to understand that the Internet is a communications platform. Growing up on IRC isn't a requirement to intuiting this; the point there was that I people understood it there and then.

People should be able to understand it here and now, too. They've just been trained otherwise.