Nobody hates working together with leftists more than other leftists
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horse is good eating. good for the climate too, since horses require so much maintenance. if we eat'em, they're gone.
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I've heard goats are like mushrooms
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There are valid reasons for veganism, but it's folderol to claim it's absolutely cheaper. For one example, sardines are fished sustainably and are very low in mercury, both because they're basically ocean mice. They're also all but impossible to nutritionally outperform for the price.
Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
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Who the fuck is downvoting this?
I love me some vegetarian and vegan meals that aren't pretending to be meat. They are their own thing and are fantastic. Heck, making a bean and meat chili with more beans and skipping the meat can be just as good. A lot of Mexican food is or can easily be made vegetarian by just leaving out the mean or switching for beans.
I also love meat! But I do need to eat it less often.
It's weird that I don't even know if the meat or the vegan hardcores are downvoting me. This place realy has develloped a few hardcore communities that don't care for stuff like "logic" or "having a real discussion"
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Can people please shut the fuck up about veganism for 5 seconds? Jesus christ, the dumbass infighting is why conservatives keep winning. Elon Musk and his nepo-baby "employees" are ransacking the federal government, ICE is rounding people up and trying to get neighbors to snitch on each other, several million people don't know how much longer they're going to be employed, and apparently we're about to build and then subsequently bankrupt casinos in Gaza, and leftists can't stop nitpicking over things that, yes, are important, but are the kind of thing we can slap fight over when the US isn't on fire. I swear to god, I'm gonna start smacking people upside the head.
The right fights just as much, that’s not why you’re a loser
It’s not ‘nitpicking’, it’s literally life or death. If you don’t understand the vital importance of animal liberation you can’t understand the connections between colonialism or environmentalism either… then therefore it’s not ‘infighting’ it’s just fighting and you’re the dumb asshole that needs ‘smacked on the head’
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I have no quarrel with these animals
You have never been close to a goose than.
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I was about to disagree with you, but then I realized that some humans are certainly dumber than a mushroom
Some? Around a third I would say.
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You have never been close to a goose than.
Never been close to a tiger either.
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Isn’t the recommended amount a lot lower than 6-8 ounces? It’s like 500g or 5 ounces per week.
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Never been close to a tiger either.
Valid comparison.
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The vegan communities, in my experience, are pretty spiky. Even amongst vegans there's a huge rift, like they're competing on whose version is most ethical. It's turned me off actually interacting with them as I find my own balance of reducing suffering into this world.
I think it's a general issue of any community that's organized around a belief and/or got ousted by society for too long I guess. Of course there'll always be people who are like this from the beginning, perhaps due to trauma, bad upbringing, bad education or whatever.
Gotta imagine a militant vegan bible-belt Linux FOSS-Bro… oh my god…
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Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
Obviously there are exceptions
Do you know what "absolute" means? If so, why say it?
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I believe both sides are fucked on a similar level here
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Damn leftist, they ruined leftism!
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Only if we don't change, and that includes you and me
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Calorie for calorie, no.
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Vegetables aren't the totality of my diet. As it stands now, vegan or vegetarian replacements for meat are more expensive than actual meat.
Where do you live for beans and lentils to be that expensive?
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The right fights just as much, that’s not why you’re a loser
It’s not ‘nitpicking’, it’s literally life or death. If you don’t understand the vital importance of animal liberation you can’t understand the connections between colonialism or environmentalism either… then therefore it’s not ‘infighting’ it’s just fighting and you’re the dumb asshole that needs ‘smacked on the head’
You know nothing about me. I haven't eaten meat since 1995 and I've been fully vegan for several years. I've been sharing information with people about the realities of factory farming and our current food system for literal decades. I know for a fact that way more than one person has changed their diet as a direct result of those conversations.
But when ICE is rounding people up down the street, and trans people are in my office trying to get passports and telling me they're afraid they're going to end up in prison and forcibly detransitioned, and my mom came home livid because some racist old fuck cornered her coworker in an elevator and demanded to know where she was from and she's terrified because her cousin was "deported" and no one has heard from her in a week, forgive me if conversations about veganism are not my priority right now. You know who can't be convinced to change their habits? People who are dead or in prison camps or who don't get a choice because their diet is "whatever the food bank has this week."
Conservatives don't fight like this - they say they feel some type of way and then they go and vote for the person with an R no matter what. Meanwhile, liberals and leftists will hold out for a perfect candidate, fight over everything, and then turn around and act shocked when our garbage electoral system doesn't work out in our favor.
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You know nothing about me. I haven't eaten meat since 1995 and I've been fully vegan for several years. I've been sharing information with people about the realities of factory farming and our current food system for literal decades. I know for a fact that way more than one person has changed their diet as a direct result of those conversations.
But when ICE is rounding people up down the street, and trans people are in my office trying to get passports and telling me they're afraid they're going to end up in prison and forcibly detransitioned, and my mom came home livid because some racist old fuck cornered her coworker in an elevator and demanded to know where she was from and she's terrified because her cousin was "deported" and no one has heard from her in a week, forgive me if conversations about veganism are not my priority right now. You know who can't be convinced to change their habits? People who are dead or in prison camps or who don't get a choice because their diet is "whatever the food bank has this week."
Conservatives don't fight like this - they say they feel some type of way and then they go and vote for the person with an R no matter what. Meanwhile, liberals and leftists will hold out for a perfect candidate, fight over everything, and then turn around and act shocked when our garbage electoral system doesn't work out in our favor.
No shit, reformism an revolution are fundamentally incompatible. Liberals and leftists are not ‘allies’ hence, its not ‘infighting’ its just fighting.
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horse is good eating. good for the climate too, since horses require so much maintenance. if we eat'em, they're gone.
I tried. It's ok. Nothing special.
