Nobody hates working together with leftists more than other leftists
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There are valid reasons for veganism, but it's folderol to claim it's absolutely cheaper. For one example, sardines are fished sustainably and are very low in mercury, both because they're basically ocean mice. They're also all but impossible to nutritionally outperform for the price.
Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
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Who the fuck is downvoting this?
I love me some vegetarian and vegan meals that aren't pretending to be meat. They are their own thing and are fantastic. Heck, making a bean and meat chili with more beans and skipping the meat can be just as good. A lot of Mexican food is or can easily be made vegetarian by just leaving out the mean or switching for beans.
I also love meat! But I do need to eat it less often.
It's weird that I don't even know if the meat or the vegan hardcores are downvoting me. This place realy has develloped a few hardcore communities that don't care for stuff like "logic" or "having a real discussion"
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Can people please shut the fuck up about veganism for 5 seconds? Jesus christ, the dumbass infighting is why conservatives keep winning. Elon Musk and his nepo-baby "employees" are ransacking the federal government, ICE is rounding people up and trying to get neighbors to snitch on each other, several million people don't know how much longer they're going to be employed, and apparently we're about to build and then subsequently bankrupt casinos in Gaza, and leftists can't stop nitpicking over things that, yes, are important, but are the kind of thing we can slap fight over when the US isn't on fire. I swear to god, I'm gonna start smacking people upside the head.
The right fights just as much, that’s not why you’re a loser
It’s not ‘nitpicking’, it’s literally life or death. If you don’t understand the vital importance of animal liberation you can’t understand the connections between colonialism or environmentalism either… then therefore it’s not ‘infighting’ it’s just fighting and you’re the dumb asshole that needs ‘smacked on the head’
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I have no quarrel with these animals
You have never been close to a goose than.
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I was about to disagree with you, but then I realized that some humans are certainly dumber than a mushroom
Some? Around a third I would say.
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You have never been close to a goose than.
Never been close to a tiger either.
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Isn’t the recommended amount a lot lower than 6-8 ounces? It’s like 500g or 5 ounces per week.
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Never been close to a tiger either.
Valid comparison.
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The vegan communities, in my experience, are pretty spiky. Even amongst vegans there's a huge rift, like they're competing on whose version is most ethical. It's turned me off actually interacting with them as I find my own balance of reducing suffering into this world.
I think it's a general issue of any community that's organized around a belief and/or got ousted by society for too long I guess. Of course there'll always be people who are like this from the beginning, perhaps due to trauma, bad upbringing, bad education or whatever.
Gotta imagine a militant vegan bible-belt Linux FOSS-Bro… oh my god…
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Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
Obviously there are exceptions
Do you know what "absolute" means? If so, why say it?
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I believe both sides are fucked on a similar level here
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Damn leftist, they ruined leftism!
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Only if we don't change, and that includes you and me
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Calorie for calorie, no.
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Vegetables aren't the totality of my diet. As it stands now, vegan or vegetarian replacements for meat are more expensive than actual meat.
Where do you live for beans and lentils to be that expensive?
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The right fights just as much, that’s not why you’re a loser
It’s not ‘nitpicking’, it’s literally life or death. If you don’t understand the vital importance of animal liberation you can’t understand the connections between colonialism or environmentalism either… then therefore it’s not ‘infighting’ it’s just fighting and you’re the dumb asshole that needs ‘smacked on the head’
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No shit, reformism an revolution are fundamentally incompatible. Liberals and leftists are not ‘allies’ hence, its not ‘infighting’ its just fighting.
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horse is good eating. good for the climate too, since horses require so much maintenance. if we eat'em, they're gone.
I tried. It's ok. Nothing special.
