Nobody hates working together with leftists more than other leftists
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How about gooses or ducks? Or deer? Or rabbits? I'm strangely intrigued.
I have no quarrel with these animals
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Regarding your statement about morals, as I've stated before, the hyperbole would be meaningless if the creator (of the hyperbole) wouldn't find any truth or parallel in it.
There is truth and parallel in it. I don't make a difference between exploiting or killing humans and exploiting or killing animals (in fact, humans are animals, but that is another topic). So don't do it (unless your life depends on it, but that is a rare circumstance and for exploitation there's no excuse).
If this was not the intention behind your words, then I will gladly stand corrected.
The intention of my words was to express that bottom left guy is a misrepresentation of vegans in general because he depicts militant vegans who are a minority. Very few vegans would say you have to starve if your only way to survive was eating animals. And the top left guy is a misrepresentation because eggs (or any other animal parts) are not or should not be staple food.
To bring real life examples:
There are many pharmaceuticals that contain animal ingredients. But since that is necessary for living a healthy life vegans generally don't ask anybody to not take them if they need to (except for a very few who are sometimes very loud).
On the other hand, animal agriculture is heavily subsidized in the EU and most vegans (at least that I know of) strongly oppose these subsidies and advocate to shift subsidies towards more sustainable forms of agriculture.
We are neither okay with incentives to eat animal products (incentives as in subsidies to make animals very cheap, cheaper than they are) nor do we want people to starve or not get the medication they need. -
To be clear, I believe vegan/vegetarian is the morally correct position even though I do eat meat. My point is that if we worked together we could cause more good in the world than we do by fighting.
The vegan communities, in my experience, are pretty spiky. Even amongst vegans there's a huge rift, like they're competing on whose version is most ethical. It's turned me off actually interacting with them as I find my own balance of reducing suffering into this world.
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Getting the average omnivore down to the recommended 6-8 ounces of meat per day would make a tremendous difference on its own. I really didn’t know how much excess protein I was consuming until I made some vegan and vegetarian friends.
Woah 200g of meat a day is well sufficient... That is basically my max amount since I pretty much only have meat at dinner and that's more than a chicken breast which is the most amount of meat I'd consume at one time. I do consume quite a bit of dairy though (used to be cheese, but now for dieting reasons it's quark yogurts, milk, etc) and a few eggs, need that protein.
But the rest is all legumes, veggies, nuts, cereals, good carbs, etc. I'd struggle to eat more meat than that even when I didn't give a shit about my diet I think, but now that I do I also cut out all the non lean stuff so that does play a role.
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I'm a species-specific eater. I don't eat beef or pork because I like pigs and cows.
I do eat lamb, because sheep are idiots and I got kicked by one as a child.
Chickens would eat me if our sizes were reversed so they are fair game too. If you didn't want to get farmed you shoulda stayed T-Rex sized.
horse is good eating. good for the climate too, since horses require so much maintenance. if we eat'em, they're gone.
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Based meme. The left is fucked
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I'm a species-specific eater. I don't eat beef or pork because I like pigs and cows.
I do eat lamb, because sheep are idiots and I got kicked by one as a child.
Chickens would eat me if our sizes were reversed so they are fair game too. If you didn't want to get farmed you shoulda stayed T-Rex sized.
I've heard goats are like mushrooms
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Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
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It's weird that I don't even know if the meat or the vegan hardcores are downvoting me. This place realy has develloped a few hardcore communities that don't care for stuff like "logic" or "having a real discussion"
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Can people please shut the fuck up about veganism for 5 seconds? Jesus christ, the dumbass infighting is why conservatives keep winning. Elon Musk and his nepo-baby "employees" are ransacking the federal government, ICE is rounding people up and trying to get neighbors to snitch on each other, several million people don't know how much longer they're going to be employed, and apparently we're about to build and then subsequently bankrupt casinos in Gaza, and leftists can't stop nitpicking over things that, yes, are important, but are the kind of thing we can slap fight over when the US isn't on fire. I swear to god, I'm gonna start smacking people upside the head.
The right fights just as much, that’s not why you’re a loser
It’s not ‘nitpicking’, it’s literally life or death. If you don’t understand the vital importance of animal liberation you can’t understand the connections between colonialism or environmentalism either… then therefore it’s not ‘infighting’ it’s just fighting and you’re the dumb asshole that needs ‘smacked on the head’
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I have no quarrel with these animals
You have never been close to a goose than.
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I was about to disagree with you, but then I realized that some humans are certainly dumber than a mushroom
Some? Around a third I would say.
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You have never been close to a goose than.
Never been close to a tiger either.
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Getting the average omnivore down to the recommended 6-8 ounces of meat per day would make a tremendous difference on its own. I really didn’t know how much excess protein I was consuming until I made some vegan and vegetarian friends.
Isn’t the recommended amount a lot lower than 6-8 ounces? It’s like 500g or 5 ounces per week.
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Never been close to a tiger either.
Valid comparison.
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The vegan communities, in my experience, are pretty spiky. Even amongst vegans there's a huge rift, like they're competing on whose version is most ethical. It's turned me off actually interacting with them as I find my own balance of reducing suffering into this world.
I think it's a general issue of any community that's organized around a belief and/or got ousted by society for too long I guess. Of course there'll always be people who are like this from the beginning, perhaps due to trauma, bad upbringing, bad education or whatever.
Gotta imagine a militant vegan bible-belt Linux FOSS-Bro… oh my god…
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Obviously there are exceptions. But in general a vegetarion meal is cheaper in comparison to a meal with beef or something like that. That is true for most meats. So for an "average" meat eater it is cheaper.
Obviously there are exceptions
Do you know what "absolute" means? If so, why say it?
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Based meme. The left is fucked
I believe both sides are fucked on a similar level here
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Damn leftist, they ruined leftism!
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Based meme. The left is fucked
Only if we don't change, and that includes you and me
