1/IMPORTANT thread about Bluesky funding and origins.
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@davetroy This is all good for people to know, but *please* don’t call these jerks “anarchists” or call it an “online anarchist movement”. They don’t want to be regulated *themselves*, but they are actively trying to subjugate and exploit others, which is anathema to anarchism.
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@davetroy Can you not conflate wealthy libertarians with anarchism?
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@kevin they're often the same, when they are anarchocapitalists. But I do understand your distinction.
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@RandomDamage @Moss @davetroy they are very literally not anarchists though, and it makes it hard to recommend this thread despite having a lot of important information because in the first post, op says something where they have no idea what they're talking about
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Asta [AMP]replied to Sturm und Drag last edited by [email protected]
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Just to help add more context, "Effective Altruism" uses anarchist-style labels and ideas to sell eugenics and cement the role of capital. It is most definitely not anarchy.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] yeah, most anarchists I know are devoted to the idea of the kind of mutual aid that was happening post-hurricane in Asheville, whereas these assholes are devoted to technology that makes more hurricanes. It’s a pretty big difference.
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@davetroy I'd go as far as to say I'm somewhat offended seeing "anarchist movements" casually listed with everything else here.
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@sashin the specific strain being referenced here is closest to LeFevre-ian 'autarchy' and Konkinist agorism. "Anarchist" in that they wish to dissolve the state.
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@[email protected] it might be worth clarifying the original post by changing it anarchocapitalist (or something like that). Otherwise it's easy for people who aren't aware of anarchocapitalist perspectives -- or who don't think of it as anarchists -- to misinterpret.
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@jdp23 @davetroy You're aware that one of the best known anarchists, Moxie Marlinspike, was involved in the creation of a major cryptocurrency? After his time at Signal, that's what he did and then Signal integrated that cryptocoin into their app!
Go back in time to fediverse 2017, you will see anarchists all over promoting cryptocurrency. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people I had debates with as recently as a year ago, citing aid to journalists and refugees, weren't anarchists. Some of the software projects I've been involved in were headed by individuals who were intensely anti-border and pro-cryptocurrency.
Anarchists forget their own history that Julian Assange is or was their hero, and that many of them reacted strongly to the US govt cutting off Wikileaks' money flow. A lot of anarchist momentum went into bitcoin because of that.
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@[email protected] Yes I'm aware -- and Moxie worked for Dorsey for a while too back in the day. But I'm pretty sure that the people @[email protected] is referring to in this post are primarily anarcho-capitalists rather than non-anarcho-capitalist anarchists.
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I am yet another person telling you to get more accurate information about anarchism and not conflate it with the non-anarchist movement known as anarcho-capitalism.
Their hatred of state regulation is not a critic of state power as a whole and they do not oppose hierarchical organisations, but want to impose one.
Please, you're an investigative journalist, I think you owe your readers a more accurate article.
