1/IMPORTANT thread about Bluesky funding and origins.
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Dave Troy :toad:replied to Dave Troy :toad: last edited by
8/From Bluesky's press release:
"[Blockchain's] Kinjal Shah will join our board. Kinjal shares our vision for a social media ecosystem that empowers the people who use it, and we are glad to have her support as we invest in driving the adoption of decentralized social."
Bluesky Announces Series A to Grow Network of 13M+ Users - Bluesky
Bluesky now exceeds 13 million users, the AT Protocol developer ecosystem continues to grow, and we’ve shipped highly requested features like direct messages and video.
Bluesky (bsky.social)
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Dave Troy :toad:replied to Dave Troy :toad: last edited by
9/The company should try to address this by publishing a clear and convincing "trust story" that offers assurances about its funders and their motives, similar to an S-1 prior to an IPO. Creators deserve to have a clear picture so they can decide whether and how to invest. Basic transparency.
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@davetroy This is all good for people to know, but *please* don’t call these jerks “anarchists” or call it an “online anarchist movement”. They don’t want to be regulated *themselves*, but they are actively trying to subjugate and exploit others, which is anathema to anarchism.
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@davetroy Can you not conflate wealthy libertarians with anarchism?
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@kevin they're often the same, when they are anarchocapitalists. But I do understand your distinction.
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@RandomDamage @Moss @davetroy they are very literally not anarchists though, and it makes it hard to recommend this thread despite having a lot of important information because in the first post, op says something where they have no idea what they're talking about
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Asta [AMP]replied to Sturm und Drag last edited by [email protected]
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Just to help add more context, "Effective Altruism" uses anarchist-style labels and ideas to sell eugenics and cement the role of capital. It is most definitely not anarchy.
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] yeah, most anarchists I know are devoted to the idea of the kind of mutual aid that was happening post-hurricane in Asheville, whereas these assholes are devoted to technology that makes more hurricanes. It’s a pretty big difference.
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@davetroy Anarchism is “no rulers including myself.” Libertarianism (in recent usage) is “no rulers except myself”, with the implication that literally everyone else is just a resource to exploit. A sort of “distributed monarchism” with trade agreements between a million rapacious kinglets.
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@davetroy I'd go as far as to say I'm somewhat offended seeing "anarchist movements" casually listed with everything else here.
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@Moss yes, I know. But there are a lot of people interpreting those philosophies in ways that suit themselves.
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@sashin the specific strain being referenced here is closest to LeFevre-ian 'autarchy' and Konkinist agorism. "Anarchist" in that they wish to dissolve the state.
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@davetroy I’m sorry but “professional liars misuse terms, so I will too” is not the seat of logic you might have thought it was.
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@Moss if you're curious, the specific strains I'm referencing is LeFevre-ian voluntarism and autarchy, and Konkinist agorism. Both of them want to dissolve the state, hence they are, by definition, 'anarchists.'
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@davetroy Destroying the state is not the only defining characteristic of anarchism, it is only the most simplistic freshman-level element. The specific right-libertarian people in the specific case of bsky funding are all power-hungry exploiters, not devotees of a narrow historical branch of political philosophy.
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@Moss yes, and yet they still would consider themselves "anarchocapitalists." You should take this up with them.
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@[email protected] it might be worth clarifying the original post by changing it anarchocapitalist (or something like that). Otherwise it's easy for people who aren't aware of anarchocapitalist perspectives -- or who don't think of it as anarchists -- to misinterpret.
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Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝replied to Dave Troy :toad: last edited by
Anarchists do not consider "anarcho-capitaiists" to be anarchists. All anarchists oppose capitalism, and all anarchism is against all forms of hierarchical control, not just the state's.
You've created a long thread of people telling you the same thing over and over, none of which was necessary to what you wanted to write. This kind of "anarchists want to destroy the state, and so do warlords, therefore warlords are anarchists" just isn't going to fly on Mastodon.
