1/IMPORTANT thread about Bluesky funding and origins.

Dave Troy :toad:

6/Possibly Bluesky can address this by discussing their funding in detail, the expectations of the funders, and whether the TPOT/PostRat community is still a principal driver of the vision for the "company." But this all points to another rug pull in progress, and a lot of credulous people hurt.

While it is reasonable that the company acknowledged that Dorsey's vision of "moderation by protocol" was unfeasible, it sets up a highly centralized model that is now subject to capture.

Dave Troy :toad:

7/And the next investment they took was from anarchocapitalist cryptobros with ties to Russia? Doesn't add up.

For those interested, here's the original post I shared here back in 2023 re: the TPOT DNA and origins of the network.
https://www.easyzoom.com/imageaccess/884cb1c001cd48e79aca92232bd24a04

Dave Troy :toad:

8/From Bluesky's press release:
"[Blockchain's] Kinjal Shah will join our board. Kinjal shares our vision for a social media ecosystem that empowers the people who use it, and we are glad to have her support as we invest in driving the adoption of decentralized social."

Bluesky Announces Series A to Grow Network of 13M+ Users - Bluesky

Bluesky now exceeds 13 million users, the AT Protocol developer ecosystem continues to grow, and we’ve shipped highly requested features like direct messages and video.

Bluesky (bsky.social)

Dave Troy :toad:

9/The company should try to address this by publishing a clear and convincing "trust story" that offers assurances about its funders and their motives, similar to an S-1 prior to an IPO. Creators deserve to have a clear picture so they can decide whether and how to invest. Basic transparency.

Mg. Moss

@davetroy This is all good for people to know, but *please* don’t call these jerks “anarchists” or call it an “online anarchist movement”. They don’t want to be regulated *themselves*, but they are actively trying to subjugate and exploit others, which is anathema to anarchism.

Daniel Taylor

@Moss @davetroy political labels rarely have any connection to dictionary definitions.

Kevin

@davetroy Can you not conflate wealthy libertarians with anarchism?

Dave Troy :toad:

@kevin they're often the same, when they are anarchocapitalists. But I do understand your distinction.

Sturm und Drag

@RandomDamage @Moss @davetroy they are very literally not anarchists though, and it makes it hard to recommend this thread despite having a lot of important information because in the first post, op says something where they have no idea what they're talking about

Asta [AMP]

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Just to help add more context, "Effective Altruism" uses anarchist-style labels and ideas to sell eugenics and cement the role of capital. It is most definitely not anarchy.

Irenes (many)

@davetroy @kevin we think that it's really quite unfair to actual anarchists to regard anarcho-capitalism as being in any way the same thing. it's got a similar name due to its history being based on fundamental misunderstandings of the core ideas - that's all.

Asta [AMP]

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] yeah, most anarchists I know are devoted to the idea of the kind of mutual aid that was happening post-hurricane in Asheville, whereas these assholes are devoted to technology that makes more hurricanes. It’s a pretty big difference.

Sashin

@davetroy I'd go as far as to say I'm somewhat offended seeing "anarchist movements" casually listed with everything else here.

Dave Troy :toad:

@sashin the specific strain being referenced here is closest to LeFevre-ian 'autarchy' and Konkinist agorism. "Anarchist" in that they wish to dissolve the state.

Jon

@[email protected] it might be worth clarifying the original post by changing it anarchocapitalist (or something like that). Otherwise it's easy for people who aren't aware of anarchocapitalist perspectives -- or who don't think of it as anarchists -- to misinterpret.

tsk

@jdp23 @davetroy You're aware that one of the best known anarchists, Moxie Marlinspike, was involved in the creation of a major cryptocurrency? After his time at Signal, that's what he did and then Signal integrated that cryptocoin into their app!

Go back in time to fediverse 2017, you will see anarchists all over promoting cryptocurrency. And I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people I had debates with as recently as a year ago, citing aid to journalists and refugees, weren't anarchists. Some of the software projects I've been involved in were headed by individuals who were intensely anti-border and pro-cryptocurrency.

Anarchists forget their own history that Julian Assange is or was their hero, and that many of them reacted strongly to the US govt cutting off Wikileaks' money flow. A lot of anarchist momentum went into bitcoin because of that.

Jon

@[email protected] Yes I'm aware -- and Moxie worked for Dorsey for a while too back in the day. But I'm pretty sure that the people @[email protected] is referring to in this post are primarily anarcho-capitalists rather than non-anarcho-capitalist anarchists.

Panda Cab

@davetroy

I am yet another person telling you to get more accurate information about anarchism and not conflate it with the non-anarchist movement known as anarcho-capitalism.

Their hatred of state regulation is not a critic of state power as a whole and they do not oppose hierarchical organisations, but want to impose one.

Please, you're an investigative journalist, I think you owe your readers a more accurate article.