POV: It's January 19th

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Nice whataboutism, I guess?

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Non sequitur muct?

Klnsfw 🏳️‍🌈

I'm pretty sure the NSA and its chinese counterpart never heard about ActivityPub.

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Ho hum. TikTok ain’t going anywhere.

It will be banned for a short while, long enough for Trump to enforce sale to Meta in exchange for their absolute hard turn top to bottom in everything they do to help spread misinformation and keep the plebs angry.

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"Propaganda from the CCP is not a good thing"

"It's not propaganda."

"It literally is."

"It's not."

"It literally is, and here are the receipts."

"It's not."

"This is the line in the receipt where it clearly states it is."

"Well, my point is that propaganda is not necessarily evil."

"Good or evil, it's a prerequisite for anyone with pretensions to politics beyond a tribal or gut instinct to recognize that something is propaganda."

"You're missing my point."
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Please. Show me where this summary is wrong. Show me the point I missed.

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In that case, "in this house" we like Tiktok?

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This comment summarized my point.

But you don't care about that. You want a receipt for "winning the argument".

IninewCrow

Reminds of my favourite description of the US ....

"The US isn't a country, it's a corporation with a military"

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This comment summarized my point.

The comment I quoted and responded to, yes.

Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod

Yeah, only AMIERICAN companies can spy on our citizens and flood them with propaganda!

USA! USA! USA!

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I happen to like that tiktok spreads information about the genocide in Gaza, which is being shadowbanned on the western platforms.

Context is important. The current context of the tiktok ban is that it's hard for the US to control the political message with that big of a platform not under US control.

I happen to dislike censorship, even if it is done by the west.

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The point where I didn't deny propaganda being pushed in that comment.

archomrade [he/him]

I wonder if op has a strong opinion about china.

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I happen to like that tiktok spreads information about the genocide in Gaza,

So in the interest of that, you chose to deny that Tiktok is used to push CCP propaganda.

which is being shadowbanned on the western platforms.

Some of the Western platforms run by billionaires, yes, whom I explicitly compared to the CCP in the original comment.

Context is important. The current context of the tiktok ban is that it’s hard for the US to control the political message with that big of a platform not under US control.

You think it's the US government which is pushing Facebook and Twitter to censor Palestinian voices?

I happen to dislike censorship, even if it is done by the west.

But you'll tolerate it, if it pushes one view you do like? Or just if it's not done by the West?

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But this entire conversation sprouted from you explicitly denying propaganda being pushed. Saying "My point isn't that it's not propaganda" when every previous comment was about you denying it's propaganda rings very hollow.

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What time was that? (genuinely curious)

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The United Nations Human Rights Council doesn't seem to think so. It put this to bed two years ago. https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu-china/news/setback-for-the-west-un-body-rejects-historic-debate-on-chinas-human-rights-record/

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So in the interest of that, you chose to deny that Tiktok is used to push CCP propaganda.

There's a difference in not knowing and denying.

Some of the Western platforms run by billionaires, yes, whom I explicitly compared to the CCP in the original comment.

Yeah, when you ignored the context of the OP.

You think it's the US government which is pushing Facebook and Twitter to censor Palestinian voices?

Are you always this nitpicky?

But you'll tolerate it, if it pushes one view you do like? Or just if it's not done by the West?

No. I prefer a wide range of different news sources where I can judge the biases. I can still get good information from Tiktok if I know that I should be critical concerning anything about China's policy.

So you'd prefer it if Facebook/Twitter/Google/Microsoft/Amazon are the only ones in control of mass online discourse? (That's the type of strawman you're constructing of me)

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Denying is different than not knowing.

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Before any of us were alive. Some would say before centralized banking in the early 20th