POV: It's January 19th

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I mean, yeah they can. Anyone with data on you could fuck you over. In fact, the more data, the easier to fuck you over.

atro_city

Do hollywood next (aka the propaganda machine of the US).

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Maybe I should have worded it differently. They're far less likely to fuck me over. I have nothing the Chinese government wants.

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My point is that propaganda is not necessarily evil. I dislike propaganda from the CCP as much as the next non-tankie. But claiming “this platform is spreading propaganda, therefore evil” is ignorant as best and condoning the other imperialist propaganda at worst.

What kind of propaganda is the CGP pushing, exactly? Is it with us in the room, right now?

Umm, that’s not really propaganda, homie. That’s simple censorship. There’s a difference.

Again: how is this pro-CCP propaganda? Do you understand the difference between censorship and propaganda?

Sounds a lot more like 'denying propaganda is being pushed'

Propaganda can be for good or bad. But acknowledging that it is propaganda is a necessary first step in either case for any citizen worth the name, whether a citizen of a nation or the world.

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We were trailblazers for a time. Other than that, we were always kind of fucked as a democratic system.

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Yeah, you can just ignore the point I'm trying to make, I guess. /s

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Nice whataboutism, I guess?

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Non sequitur muct?

Klnsfw 🏳️‍🌈

I'm pretty sure the NSA and its chinese counterpart never heard about ActivityPub.

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Ho hum. TikTok ain’t going anywhere.

It will be banned for a short while, long enough for Trump to enforce sale to Meta in exchange for their absolute hard turn top to bottom in everything they do to help spread misinformation and keep the plebs angry.

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::: spoiler spoiler
"Propaganda from the CCP is not a good thing"

"It's not propaganda."

"It literally is."

"It's not."

"It literally is, and here are the receipts."

"It's not."

"This is the line in the receipt where it clearly states it is."

"Well, my point is that propaganda is not necessarily evil."

"Good or evil, it's a prerequisite for anyone with pretensions to politics beyond a tribal or gut instinct to recognize that something is propaganda."

"You're missing my point."
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Please. Show me where this summary is wrong. Show me the point I missed.

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In that case, "in this house" we like Tiktok?

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This comment summarized my point.

But you don't care about that. You want a receipt for "winning the argument".

IninewCrow

Reminds of my favourite description of the US ....

"The US isn't a country, it's a corporation with a military"

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This comment summarized my point.

The comment I quoted and responded to, yes.

Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod

Yeah, only AMIERICAN companies can spy on our citizens and flood them with propaganda!

USA! USA! USA!

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I happen to like that tiktok spreads information about the genocide in Gaza, which is being shadowbanned on the western platforms.

Context is important. The current context of the tiktok ban is that it's hard for the US to control the political message with that big of a platform not under US control.

I happen to dislike censorship, even if it is done by the west.

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The point where I didn't deny propaganda being pushed in that comment.

archomrade [he/him]

I wonder if op has a strong opinion about china.

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I happen to like that tiktok spreads information about the genocide in Gaza,

So in the interest of that, you chose to deny that Tiktok is used to push CCP propaganda.

which is being shadowbanned on the western platforms.

Some of the Western platforms run by billionaires, yes, whom I explicitly compared to the CCP in the original comment.

Context is important. The current context of the tiktok ban is that it’s hard for the US to control the political message with that big of a platform not under US control.

You think it's the US government which is pushing Facebook and Twitter to censor Palestinian voices?

I happen to dislike censorship, even if it is done by the west.

But you'll tolerate it, if it pushes one view you do like? Or just if it's not done by the West?