It's a big club, and YOU ain't in it.

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Don't forget you wouldn't even be privileged to have this conversation with the billionaires who conspire to rob and then kill us every single day. The coward talking out of their ass is the one who looks at a broken power structure and can only muster a meek, "not like this." Save your speeches for those doing the real killing.

Engywuck

Yeah, man, whatever. This conversation is not interesting anymore.

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True. But athletes are still people and they are allowed to be themselves.

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That's silly, a shocking amount of media sources are in cover their ass mode not just fox. LinkedIn has posts. Twitter has posts. Even SNL, shockingly, is a little bit "can we not be cheering a killer on air?"

So..I call bs, this is everywhere.

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Nobody in work with is on the same page as me about this subject, but they also don't know enough about it to feel comfortable disagreeing with me. I think a lot of people relate more to a CEO than Luigi for the simple fact that they think it's possible for them to be in a similar position. As delusional as that is, it's a factor that has always put the working class against themselves.

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Cheering for a Killer and defending a CEO are not the only two stances. You can do neither.

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I've seen plenty of corpo bootlicking even on Lemmy.

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Thing is, his death means he cannot kill anymore.

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the CEO who killed millions via denying healthcare was the true working class hero

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People like you are dangerous to those of us actually trying to make a positive change. You’d sell out your fellow man to the elites if push came to shove and we can sense that cowardice in you. Don’t expect us to be stoked about traitors. If you don’t want to help then at least get out of the fucking way.

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This is not about defending billionaires, this is about condemning murder as a matter of principle!

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A CEO was "murdering" with debts before and after, call me when something actually changes.

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Actively killing someone =/= someone dying by an avoidable cause of death

The legal system isn't created by the rich. Sure they can afford lawyers and have a higher influence in politics. The country is still a democracy but the people have to vote in their best interest to get better healthcare. Systematic change is needed, so the root cause. You could say by killing this guy all you're doing is trying to treat a symptom of a broken system, even tho I would say his death doesn't even fully do that. Its just one more death. An avoidable and unnecessary death. I don't claim his corporate policies but murder like this has no place in a democracy with rule of law to change things. If a CEO started looking out for the best health of the customer it would be against the interest of the shareholder as it would make the company less profitable. A systematic change like unified public healthcare is needed. No private entities. No healthcare shouldn't be tied to work.

You can't claim moral superiority while promoting murder.

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So you can applaud that this topic has come to focus of the public without celebrating a murder right?

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The company and system at large remains the same

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Elect representatives and use non-violent acts to shape public perception so the law is changed. If it is legal and he isn't actively like murdering/torturing people I don't think you can really argue he should be imprisoned. Just my take. Also, there are no "good people" and "bad people". Its not black and white.

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Yet again claiming moral righteousness while promoting murder. Positive change will come through democratic and legislative change. Violence leads to chaos and disturbance. When people like you come to power they use everything to undermine and disrupt critics. How can you label a person a traitor simply for disagreeing with violence? Every single country that became communist has just created a new elite and ruling class. Don't pretend you're the good one.

Cruxifux

You’re an idiot.

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The principle being complete subservience to a group of wall street military and prison industry profiteers who have used their wealth to hijack our social institutions, our representatives and transformed the vast majority of news media in our country into propaganda dissemination outlets While also enforcing a system that legislates and bureaucratically incentivizes the deaths of poor and working class people including American citizens for profit while denying the reality that this is called social murder and is murder none the less. A principle completely lacking in principle. Id love to know what you consider to be moral with principles such as those.

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Come to Germany. We had a wealth tax until 1996 and whenever it's revival is publicly discussed you can see that the majority is against it even when the majority of our people would never have to pay it and would profit from it. It's mind boggling that the people are still willing to defend our current "don't tax the rich" policy...