It's a big club, and YOU ain't in it.

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Democracy can't tolerate a lot of things that are actively happening. Most of these things are legal, and frankly, with all of the suffering and murderous actions, concern trolling over the single time the shoe is on the other foot in class warfare is about as dumb as Trump supporters thinking that because Trump was indicted that they're coming for them next. I felt safer with the murderer abroad. Everyone without gobs of money or perfect health should have.

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Also, maybe the players are tired and grumpy after the match.

Engywuck

I find it a bit hypocritical to complain about murders while advocating murder. No problem on my part. It's not that I care. It's something that everyone has to debate with their own conscience.

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The fans are why they make millions dribbling a ball though. A simple high five is not a lot to ask.

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I don't think it's hypocritical to want someone committing a 9/11 scale murder yearly while a legal system nods in approval to stop murdering, but from a low power perspective there's not much to be done about that. The system has been changed from a justice seeking system into a class warfare tool by the elite. Change would be better, but in this system, change comes from above. If the powers within the system are scared, some of them will flee to the moral position to spare themselves the risk. Power that's brokered through fear is still power, it's peak liberal to say fear must remain untapped. They would and literally do kill people like us every day, empathy is precious in late stage capitalism, I'll reserve mine for people who's suffering isn't karmic.

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As a photographer I'm wondering why would billionaires give autofocus about poor people...

/s obviously

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Don't forget you wouldn't even be privileged to have this conversation with the billionaires who conspire to rob and then kill us every single day. The coward talking out of their ass is the one who looks at a broken power structure and can only muster a meek, "not like this." Save your speeches for those doing the real killing.

Engywuck

Yeah, man, whatever. This conversation is not interesting anymore.

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True. But athletes are still people and they are allowed to be themselves.

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That's silly, a shocking amount of media sources are in cover their ass mode not just fox. LinkedIn has posts. Twitter has posts. Even SNL, shockingly, is a little bit "can we not be cheering a killer on air?"

So..I call bs, this is everywhere.

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Nobody in work with is on the same page as me about this subject, but they also don't know enough about it to feel comfortable disagreeing with me. I think a lot of people relate more to a CEO than Luigi for the simple fact that they think it's possible for them to be in a similar position. As delusional as that is, it's a factor that has always put the working class against themselves.

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Cheering for a Killer and defending a CEO are not the only two stances. You can do neither.

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I've seen plenty of corpo bootlicking even on Lemmy.

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Thing is, his death means he cannot kill anymore.

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the CEO who killed millions via denying healthcare was the true working class hero

Cruxifux

People like you are dangerous to those of us actually trying to make a positive change. You’d sell out your fellow man to the elites if push came to shove and we can sense that cowardice in you. Don’t expect us to be stoked about traitors. If you don’t want to help then at least get out of the fucking way.

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This is not about defending billionaires, this is about condemning murder as a matter of principle!

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A CEO was "murdering" with debts before and after, call me when something actually changes.

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Actively killing someone =/= someone dying by an avoidable cause of death

The legal system isn't created by the rich. Sure they can afford lawyers and have a higher influence in politics. The country is still a democracy but the people have to vote in their best interest to get better healthcare. Systematic change is needed, so the root cause. You could say by killing this guy all you're doing is trying to treat a symptom of a broken system, even tho I would say his death doesn't even fully do that. Its just one more death. An avoidable and unnecessary death. I don't claim his corporate policies but murder like this has no place in a democracy with rule of law to change things. If a CEO started looking out for the best health of the customer it would be against the interest of the shareholder as it would make the company less profitable. A systematic change like unified public healthcare is needed. No private entities. No healthcare shouldn't be tied to work.

You can't claim moral superiority while promoting murder.

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So you can applaud that this topic has come to focus of the public without celebrating a murder right?