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Ben Royce 🇺🇦

holy shit!

couple things:

1. don't get discouraged, this whole topic is just beginning to heat up. roll up your sleeves and jump in, many many more twists and turns to come

2. turn to reporting. sorry if you already reported on the fake fediverse account and i missed it, but just spreading news on this issue is a big deal, thank you

3. enjoy the popcorn! drama wave forecast is high

4. let's kill centralized social media. tiktok, instagram, twitter: we need to KILL IT

BeAware :fediverse:

@benroyce yeah. I reported it directly to the engineer that proceeded to follow the fediverse account 12 hours later, that's why I deleted my account.

I figured that doing advocating here to help new people get a grasp here and not get overwhelmed and leave, is a more fruitful endeavor than trying to fight the uneducated and misinformation there.

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@BeAware just remember a follow is not an endorsement. the engineer could be following the fake just to collect intel

BeAware :fediverse:

@benroyce ‍️the account is still there over 30 days later so I won't be holding my breath. https://www.threads.net/@fediverse

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@BeAware

a downside to decentralized: since no one "owns" anything, anyone can be anyone, like the "anonymous" hackers can put out all sorts of announcements because anyone can pretend to be anonymous

if there is major scandalous misinfo from that account, it needs to be made an example of though, socially

BeAware :fediverse:

@benroyce I tried. The last replies the account made were to me and a Pakistani user asking why Fediverse wasn't enabled on their account. They proceeded to tell them how the internet infrastructure in Pakistan can't support regular internet usage....which obviously isn't an issue because the user is ON the internet. The reason they can't use Fediverse is cause Threads is limiting it by country for now.‍️

My replies and discourse with them aren't there cause I deleted my account, but their posts are still there.

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@BeAware you are deep dive eyes and ears. keep at it. there are bombs out there, waiting to go off. you're like an advance scout in a war. a war just getting started

julian

@[email protected] @[email protected] just clearing something up, Authorized Fetch is the Mastodon name for requiring HTTP Signatures for retrieving content, even public content.

However, you already did the hard work once to sort out http signatures for publishing content, sending one to retrieve content is trivial by comparison. It took me 5 minutes.

Right now the rationale behind using it is mainly about protecting publicly visible content from being consumed by blocked servers, which is actually a side effect of the feature. There's more potential in supporting it because it then allows fine-grained access over who gets to see a resource (think private groups, DMs, etc.)

BeAware :fediverse:

@julian @benroyce sure. It's useful, however, its currently mastodon proprietary, isn't it?‍️that's the point I was trying to make. Maybe I wasn't very clear. Thanks for the clarification Julian.

julian

@[email protected] nah, it's not proprietary, it's just what they call it.

It's not "ActivityPub", I suppose, either, because HTTP Signatures are not explicitly defined in the spec.

It's like how NodeBB categories can follow other groups actors, and I call it "category syncing".

BeAware :fediverse:

@julian ah. Well, my point was that they added it and others have been forced to use it or be left behind. That's the important takeaway because that's the extend method used in "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".

I truly believe Mastodon wants to be the "last microblog standing" in the Fediverse. Or at the very least, one of the very few that can change things so dramatically.

I know that's a radical belief that nobody will agree with me. But we can only wait and see.

Mossad-Ultrá Oliver 📟

@benroyce @BeAware Full ActivityPub-support was announced for Q4/24 from the start.
What has Facebook done to myspace? o.O

Ben Royce 🇺🇦

@oliver @BeAware

Facebook and MySpace had interop. MySpace was drained to a husk with it.

Beware "collaboration" where only one side stands to gain.