Vote for NodeBB
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@brazzerstop @phenomlab so when they are winning "it is fair and acceptable", but when they are not winning "they are cheaters anyways"... and this discourse user in the screenshot is trying to encourage others to install VPN to multi-vote for discourse...
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@crazycells Exactly. I've kept mostly silent on this issue, but my original remark still remains
Everyone knows NodeBB is far superior. It doesn't need a farcical accolade to prove it.
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@crazycells I'd say "that's democracy nowadays!", but I have a sneaking suspicion democracy has always been this way
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@darkpixlz Funny you should say that as I have the same opinion about Discourse. That, and needing to run everything inside a Docker container isn't exactly flexible.
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@darkpixlz Hard to disagree on the Bootswatch themes - they do have issues, but nothing insurmountable as there's always CSS.
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@phenomlab said in Vote for NodeBB :
Funny you should say that as I have the same opinion about Discourse.
Agreed (although I am supposed to stay neutral about competitors)..
I always find that Discourse sites have that clunky look, but perhaps that's the kind of look and feel they're going with? (It's rather interesting that @darkpixlz' feedback I wilfully apply to Discourse word-for-word!)
Additionally, as a guest user I visited their topic on this issue, and after reading a couple posts got hit with a backdrop-shaded call-to-register modal. I highly highly dislike this particular anti-pattern.
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@julian I much prefer the more spaced out look of Discourse, nodeBB is obviously meant to be a lot more compact, just comparing the 2's homepages
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I could go all day about things that I personally think are better over on Discourse, but I probably wont, because I've owned a good 6 Discourse sites, but no nodeBB ones so it's not really fair for me to compare it anything other than the normal user interface, because I've never looked at anything admin related.
I cant relate at all to their UI being hard to pickup, I first joined a Discorse forum in 2017 and I picked up on everything about it pretty quickly!
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@darkpixlz Most of our home page is built using different widgets. So it is completely up to the site admin.
try.nodebb.org is only using a sidebar widget for example.
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@darkpixlz @julian @baris These are all fair comments in my view, and most of this is about personal preference. The thing that really put me off Discourse was Docker, but that's just my view (and one I've always stuck to). I did look at Discourse some time ago after departing the Flarum ecosystem, and settled on NodeBB for a number of reasons - one being a developer myself it was easy to extend, and the other was that I didn't need to start learning Ruby et al when I already have a good working knowledge of NodeJS, so the choice was pretty obvious for me.
Again, my views entirely, and I'm not here to try to influence anyone otherwise. I do however find value in comparing the two products - not so much as saying I want to jump ship as that's not going to happen (I run three NodeBB sites - one being non-public), and I'm certainly not into "bashing" competitive products, as that isn't at all fair on those who have invested blood, sweat, and tears into creating a system for millions of others to enjoy for free. In fact, I applaud those that have taken a huge leap and give up their own free time for something like this. I've done it before in the past, and still do with my own forum as it's designed to assist others for free.
My only other comment here would be exactly what does the 20i "award" give you? My quip about a farcical accolade in this case was more around "who will actually read the voting and use it to make an informed decision?" All of us in the FOSS world know that in reality, it's recommendations from other professionals and enthusiasts, contributing to repositories, creating extensions/plugins - and most importantly, a general appreciation for the product, it's ecosystem and those who keep it fed and watered on a daily basis.
All of these ethics apply to both NodeBB and Discourse (and probably Flarum too). Circumventing any system in terms of increasing votes for what is essentially a pointless survey to increase the profile of the creator and expand it's own reach seems like a fruitless exercise to me
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@darkpixlz This is my community in Light mode (beta version, I'm still working on styling)
I don't have a big screen and use 33% zoom in browser to simulate a big screen-size.
Main page
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Recent page
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Of course, this is not the limit of perfection
I fell in love with NodeBB for the opportunity for even an inexperienced user (not a developer) to create something of their own.
It's called freedom, which Discourse doesn't have. I talked about my experience.
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there is nothing to say. Discourse is still very ugly and dated
(personal opinion)
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@brazzerstop The issue is more when you enter dark mode. A lot of stuff here has random white borders and do not have any different styling than light, for example the composer:
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The markdown on Discourse is also much better and there is no delay to the preview, it's also easier to understand for beginners
@DownPW said in Vote for NodeBB :
Discourse is still very ugly and dated
The default theme is not meant to actually stay on most sites, as there are a lot of extremely custom themes on there meant to customize your site a lot, i have even developed 2 of my own
In my opinion, the "ugly and dated" part could go for nodeBB as well
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It's really personal. My words are probably a bit strong and I respect the work done on Discourse but I can't agree whether it's graphically or ergonomically.
In short, not a big deal, all that, just personal appreciation. -
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I congratulate you, guys! It's just good marketing for NodeBB
https://www.20i.com/foss-awards/winners