Faircamp + Hubzilla = music site in the Fediverse
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Roberta Fidorareplied to Stefan Bohacek last edited by
@stefan @chris @ethicalrevolution @meljoann @axwax @keefmarshall @hilljam I hope so. Curious to know too if anyone else has moved platforms multiple times and kind of had to start from scratch each time, or whether (unlike myself), you've had the foresight to keep one domain to rule them all. My first band started on MySpace and by the time of moving onto a new project, I had no way of contacting any of the people on there. Did the same with Twitter and just blitzed the account into dust.
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Meljoann last edited by@Meljoann
Definitely we are fatigued with the fact thereβs no good solution for music discovery that everyone uses, so we do have to be kinda everywhere at once
now this is a different thing to solve... if you have all on one place you sure could spread to other platforms from there... but make sure reactions go back to the main place...
e.g. if you have a Band Website with Social Media functionality you still could boost your posts to other fedi platforms but all the commends would go to your original post to your Band Website
this does not work on platform which are closes up and donΒ΄t let you get thinks out - yes - but the future are federated platforms which are open
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@RobertaFidora
I feel like I start from scratch on each platform either way. Itβs like, all these platforms are so adversarial with each other, and actively hide your posts if you have links to anywhere else on the internet!Plus theyβre designed for all dopamine hits being contained JUST within their apps. So I just donβt think most people ever βclick outβ anywayβ¦
@stefan @chris @ethicalrevolution @axwax @keefmarshall @hilljam
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Meljoannreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited by
@chris yep, this is why Iβm going back to POSSE* β¦ which is where I started in the first place! Keeping my own spaces on https://meljoann.com & https://mustics.com
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Roberta Fidorareplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited by
@chris Potentially and it would be amazing if more folks worked together and combined ideas so that it could be customisable for different needs. The other thing I should've mentioned (but ran out of space), is my website-building knowledge is extremely limited and I'm only really trying to catch up now. Perhaps part of that fatigue is not just all the platforms to update but the daunting amount of knowledge needed to untangle from them too, to understand interesting new projects such as this.
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Meljoann last edited by@Meljoann
Yes it is all about POSSE
Looking at your nice site you have it all ! but federation is missing. Membership, Contacts and Commends seam not to federate but seam to be looked up just to one sever
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Roberta Fidora last edited by@Roberta Fidora
limited website-building knowledge
yes sure - things have to get more easy to use so that more people can do thinksif more folks worked together and combined ideas
exactly that is the point...
but to get ahead there must be a vision of what is desirable first -
Meljoannreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited by
@chris Ghost is working on federation as we speak though, so that can wait
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Meljoann last edited by@Meljoann
Ghost is working on federation as we speak though, so that can wait
yes finally after years asking for it Ghost devs have announced that they want federation over ActivityPub to be part of the project - that is a big one... let's see how this will work out.
There is one problem i see today: ActivityPub is quid poor in handling user permissions - actually it doenΒ΄t really know any but you need permissions for a federated CMS !
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Sign in authentication should work across servers - this also is not part of ActivityPub jet...
Hubzilla has it all today - working since over more than 10 years - what is lacking here are devs who make things more shiny - Hmm.. -
_jayropereplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited by@ππ±π»π²πΌ Awesome to see this proof of concept. While i think, that the design of this is terrible (! ) it's lovely to see this functionally working. Leave the design to @Simon Repp, he knows what he does there But yeah, hopefully i can host my own #Faircamp on Hubzilla instead of running a separate site as of yet ( #^https://fc.kliklak.net ) . Very cool!Sent to the #Fediverse from a #Hubzilla instance.
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Ema γ¨γreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited byto really be useful, streaming and commenting should be made available on the same page. So that you can continue listening to the streaming while commenting for example.
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Ema γ¨γ last edited by@Ema γ¨γ
streaming and commenting should be made available on the same page.
It is allready, That is how it works... You just have to be connected to the ehma channel -
ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to Stefan Bohacek last edited by@Stefan Bohacek
I am hoping that ActivityPub, which powers Mastodon/fediverse, will grow in popularity with larger tech companies, much like with Meta (for better or worse) and we will one day get to only needing one account for social web
so what is the reason why ActivityPub was not invented by e.g. Meta? -
ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited byfor all who are not on an OpenWebAuth talking system - just copy the given URL in your e.g Masto search bar and leave a commend
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@chris It does not take you directly to the thread, but if you click on the channel, you can see the posts that Mastodon has retrieved and reply. This may not work on other platforms though.
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited byif you are on a system with OWA - OpenWebAuth - just enter your likes and comments on the release page:
if you are on a system with no OWA - like Masto - copy the given URL into the Masto search filed - so call up the post in your Masto UI and leave your likes and commends there - they will appear on the release page so
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Stefan Bohacekreplied to ππ±π»π²πΌ last edited by [email protected]
@chris Funny enough, the fediverse actually could've started with Twitter. One of the early engineers there did start to look into a standardized way of how social media could work together, but that effort did not pick up.
Why a Twitter Founding Engineer Is Now All-in on Mastodon
Blaine Cook was there at the very beginning of Twitter; now he's focused on building fediverse infrastructure that will help Mastodon scale.
The New Stack (thenewstack.io)
My guess, for both why this happened, and why no other big tech company worked on this: user lock-in. Same, probably, why Twitter abandoned public RSS feeds, which they did have at one point.
Has Twitter removed the unauthenticated user RSS timeline feeds?
I have previously used the following URL to access my tweets and embed them on a website: http://twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/my_username.rss It seems that just this morning though, I'm get...
Stack Overflow (stackoverflow.com)
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Stefan Bohacekreplied to Stefan Bohacek last edited by
@chris And it's a shame. I love how the early internet/web has been built around standards and interoperability.
Now it's all/mostly about locking people in and extracting value from their data.
Well, outside of the fediverse, at least.
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This may not work on other platforms though.
this will work an any Fedi platform which offers a post search by URL.
e.g. pixelfed does it:
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ππ±π»π²πΌreplied to _jayrope last edited by@_jayrope
yeah, hopefully i can host my own #Faircamp on Hubzilla instead of running a separate site as of yet ( #^https://fc.kliklak.net ) . Very cool!
if you do that try to get also all which you host currently under #^https://www.kliklak.net/ into the Hubzilla CMS and be the very first musician in the world who shares all his pages by a single federated CMS system with permission that work across servers
So make a new hubzilla installation under kliklak.net and make HZ the one and only system you deal with - and report how this all works out for you
