I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!

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The classic lemmy response:

“its not about the murder it’s symbolic of revolution”

“um it’s satire”

“murder is good sometimes”

all in reply to one comment

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Lots of folks here are 100% for violence against anyone they disagree with.

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It will absolutely solve the problem,.

People dont want to die > People stop doing things that make others want to kill them > Success

Edit if y’all don’t see how I’m being sarcastic, and this reply is about how the death penalty does not deter crime, I don’t know what to tell ya.

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However, ultimately, personal consistency doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things, right? If I smoke cigarettes, I can still tell people not to smoke, right?

You can tell people not to smoke but you’d be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they’re doing - that’s worthless.

You’re saying: Take no violent action against those destroying the planet because we should respect all life. And you’re vegan. So that consistency bolsters your message, downvoted though it may be.

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the hilarious thing about these apologists is that the majority of the 1% wouldn’t even piss on them if they were on fire. we are beneath them.

You’re 100% wrong and you should ask the burned and executed corpses of the original BLM organizers if they were beneath notice.

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You don’t need a mechanized execution machine to kill three people. You need it to kill the crowd of people.

And historically that’s what it was used for. It was used BY the rich AGAINST the poor.

NaibofTabr

The problem is that the billionaires perpetuate the system that supports them, and they effectively have all the power.

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Nah, some of us just see that they buy the elections so that we can’t vote for change. And they buy the judges so we can’t sue for change. And they buy the media so we can’t speak for change. So now we’re exploring the extremely distasteful option because all other avenues for change have been blocked

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And billionaires are going to, what, just let us kill the system they run and are the primary beneficiaries of? Get your tongue out of the taint and look at the dying planet you’re on that they’re making.

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If you ever scoffed at the word ‘ableism’ observe it here being used as a weapon

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Okay point to a success doing it your way.

Have you read the Jakarta Method?

JackGreenEarth

No, but neither ways have succeeded, we still live in capitalist system. I’d prefer to try a method that doesn’t involve unnecessary killing and suffering.

NOVA DRAGON

“You can tell people not to smoke but you’d be a hypocrite then. If a hypocrite is telling you not to do something they’re doing - that’s worthless.”

I couldn’t disagree with the “worthless” thing more, even if I tried.

Yes, I would be a hypocrite, but calling someone a “hypocrite” is merely a personal attack on their character. Someone’s character, ultimately, does not change the fact of the matter, which is that, in this case, smoking is harmful and you shouldn’t smoke if you want to be in good health. The person telling you this being a hypocrite has no bearing on that whatsoever—it’s intellectually fallacious to even suggest such a thing.

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i need you to answer the question I asked instead of spouting off about things you could easily know better about if you did some investigation into the topic.

but neither ways have succeeded

And you’re 100% wrong on this point. The other way has proven to work again and again. But only ever after your way fails and kills a shitload of innocent people. Just to say it explicitly: Every single violent revolution that has ever occurred on this earth began as a peaceful protest that was forced to become violent to protect themselves.

GlockenGold

All of them indirectly kill people. It’s impossible to be a billionaire and a moral person, as a moral person would spend that wealth to improve the lives of others. You can say that “oh but this billionaire runs a charity!”, but how much of their own wealth do they give to it? Would a moral billionaire rely on the money of others to make change in the world? Would they still be a billionaire if they truly wanted change?

JackGreenEarth

Just to be clear, you don’t need to convince me there are no moral billionaires.

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Yes, kill them, by taxing them out of existence.

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I just wanted to say thank you for voicing a clear, coherent rebuttal of the knee-jerk, emotional “kill 'em” reactions we see so much. You’re right that most who post that sort of thing are LARPing, and I really hope it’s just a way to let off steam, but I worry that someone might try to carry out the threat, and do incalculable harm to the left in the process.

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I’m sure in a future thread we’ll get a comment saying something like:

“No one on Lemmy is saying we should murder billionaires”

GHiLA

There’s an air of truth to that in that, I want them to be tortured first. Don’t build the wood pyres so high at the start. Make sure the fire slowly creeps up to their vital organs. We should also flash scenes of violence and poverty caused by their actions into their retinas as they boil into greedy little pools of charred carbon.

To answer the question you’re thinking, like a baby, every night. Zero issues.