Questions?
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Last question is pretty legit though. Isn’t there data of how many black kids grow up without a father?
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
To add: some of the comics, as well as your, examples are good examples of intersectional discrimination. To take a particular one: the doctors-not-taking-you-as-seriously thing happens to all women. But it’s much worse for black women in particular. And it’s also not as bad for black men as it is for black women.* So, that’s an issue she’s facing in this severity because she’s black AND a woman. There are many such intersectional issues, and it’s important to acknowledge and work against them. Anything related to children is similar.
- I remember that from a statistic, I’ll try to look it up if anyone would like me to
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
And you’d likely still find that out using the same question from the left.
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I think it’s both. It probably starts with gender discrimination (as the medical field highly favors men. Look at the differences in how we are taught about heart attacks for men and women for example) but then on top of that, it adds the racial discrimination.
Black women (and especially queer black women) are among the most discriminated groups sadly
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Same here. Even women doctors have been shitty to my white wife over things that should be obvious or at least taken seriously.
I can only imagine black women have it worse and that makes me pretty furious considering what I’ve already seen.
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ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρєreplied to [email protected] last edited by
It does depend on gender, but also on race. Even many of the medical procedures are inherently racist, since they were developed mostly with white men in mind. Especially anything that calls for visual checks can be very biased.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Yea, that part is a gender discrimination issue, some doctors will refuse to even tie a woman’s tubes if they’re “too young” saying shit like “What will your future husband think” and if they are married already even saying shit like “You’ll need your husband’s permission/need to be present”
It’s disgusting.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Plenty of white guys that ditched, divorced, etc their partners after getting them pregnant as well.
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massive_bereavementreplied to [email protected] last edited by
I'll give you a bonus one:
"But where are you originally from?" -
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If you have no data about the “fact” (I wish I could highlight even more how much that is NOT a fact) and are asking users to provide evidence that supports that to you, maybe the question is not legit then, is it?
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Are you guys ok over the pond? I thought every panel after the second was just silly but then I read the married guy’s comment…
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I can’t speak to the ones about holding babies because I try to generally avoid that, but I’m a black woman, and I feel these to the depths of my soul.
I remember some girl in college literally asking me “Oh, are you from a broken home?” It took me a minute to even understand the question.
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We’re both Eastern Europeans in Western Europe, so not visible minorities until we open our mouths.
We were recently house hunting, and my wife is the sole earner.
I can’t count how many times we had to explain that, or how many times we were disadvantaged against people with the opposite situation. When we applied for a joint bank account with both of us working, guess whose name they put on the account. Or try getting hired without getting asked about your family situation. For her, it always comes up in “small talk” in interviews, very obliquely of course. For me, maybe six months to one year into the job.
On the other hand, she opens the street door every time there’s a heavy delivery, as they don’t try to have her carry heavy cargo to our apartment like they do to me, despite it being paid for.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
BREAKING NEWS Racism is now okay. Forum user suggests there’s probably even data backing it up.
Even if the data showed an insane 95%, it doesn’t justify treating an entire race differently. To me it seems weird that we still track that kind of data separately by race.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Lol that’s a stereotype. One parent not being in the picture is a poverty thing. Not a black thing. Since poverty disproportionately effects black Americans out seems like it’s a black problem but it’s a system of oppression problem.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
That’s why the term “misogynoir” exists. It’s both, and they pile on and increase each other.
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Here’s a bonus I saw at college: “Can I touch your hair?” it’s an especially weird one.
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
It is more common for black fathers to be absent according to certain demographic measures.
However: race is not the only factor to the statistic, and the statistic in not defined well through time.
At one point “divorced or never married mother” was the basis for the statistic. Shifting it to “father lives in a separate home” is better but still misses that you can live in a separate home and still be there for your kid. That’s before you get to adoptive fathers and all the other non-biological support roles.For all those measures, economics is a better predictor than race. Race serving as an indirect measure of economics is its own can of worms and bias.
Finally, a question can be statistically valid and still be biased, inappropriate, or just rude.
“You’re black, so I don’t want to assume your child’s father is around” is all of those. -
[email protected]replied to massive_bereavement last edited by
Or white person: “You speak [West European language] very well”
“Uh thanks you too”
White person:
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[email protected]replied to [email protected] last edited by
Nice whataboutism. Not saying anything about the reason, but you automatically go for the “the others do it too.” I just question the honesty of the postulation in the meme. Since the father is more often than not in the picture, as is evidenced by data collected and more often than not an argument for why black men fall into crime more often than others, it is a valid question. Dont know why a doctor would ask such a question though. Seems fake.