"TikTok is stealing your data."

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Yeah for sure, its why I usually stick to short replies.

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They made it illegal to sell it to people who explicitly want to harm the USA. Thats a good start.

Ironically, most USA based social media platforms are already banned in China. It just makes sense, if TikTok wants to operate here they need the chinese owners to divest to below 20% or stop sending personal data overseas.

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To give them the opportunity to

a) Stop sending US Citizen personal data to China

AND

b) Divest Chinese Ownership to below 20%

To be clear, the USA didn't ban TikTok. TikTok owners are choosing to shut it down rather than sell.

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You also can't send the data there or be more than 20% owned by non-US-citizen citizens of those countries.

TikTok owners have stated repeatedly that they will shut down this Sunday rather than sell.

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What part of "China is a geopolitical adversary so maybe it's fucking different" is so hard for paint chip eaters to understand?

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Sure, but even if TikTok sold it wouldn't solve the problem. Hell them not selling also doesn't solve the problem.

The problem is that data is gobbled up and sold. Data/privacy protection laws to stop that would be useful.

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It is not.

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Because anything longer than a sentence pivoting to another argument and it all falls apart.

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Says 2018

https://metro.co.uk/2021/01/01/a-complete-history-of-tiktok-launch-us-ban-and-best-viral-dances-13823263/

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Ah ok so we should start doing the things China does then? I think them banning social media platforms is also bad when the bans are just done for the sake of monopolizing social media platforms under the control of the government. Decentralized platforms like this are a nice way around that but most people aren't gonna use them. So having platforms based in different countries to allow different perspectives on stories like with Israel/Palestine is good. Cause if we can only access American social media platforms you know they're just gonna fully suppress coverage on issues that America and various lobbying groups don't want to be talked about.

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"TikTok is influencing you politically"

So you'll shut down Fox News, right?

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By banning FaceBook, China is keeping itself safe from influence that could be used as a weapon to cause great and irreparable damages.

Whether I want harm to come to them is besides the point that it is a rational and logical decision.

I think the disconnect here is that you don't think they are weapons, that you don't think they will be used to commit harm.

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The ban going into effect on Sunday is not the result of Donald Trump's actions but instead the 2024 HR 815 of the 118th Congress, divisions H and I.

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Them being adversarial doesn't really matter. The allies of today are the enemies of tomorrow and the converse, so the who shouldn't matter. The problem is with anyone collecting data on your citizens because it can be sold, traded, stolen, or abused.

If it was about protecting people, a wide-spread countermeasure would be used instead of a pinpointed assault targeting a single app.

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OR SOLD TO A US BASED BUYER (I'm personally thinking this is the Muskrat's doing, but that's all conspiracy)

If true, Musk may have bought shares in companies that deal with data and wants to simply profit. I have had a work colleague who got rich buying stocks and is bit of a fan of Elon Musk. He admits that private data is basically the new gold but the masses is all too unaware or uncaring for it. So you might be on to something with this.

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I choose to believe a hostile foreign dictatorship means more harm than a hostile domestic for profit business.

Probably because that aligns with what each of them says they want, to say nothing of their actions.

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Top part opinion the rest is the wording of the law you quoted. Want to point out if it has fangs or any actual good legislation or just say they did a thing?

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According to this statista article at least 80% of their population has mobile phones with internet access as of 2023. So I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about here.

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I think Trump is going to try to work out a deal where TickTok gets to stay the way it is if the company publicly blames Democrats for all the noise.

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A massive, comprehensive data privacy law would've covered the TikTok base and any software by any other threat

That's assuming the ban is motivated by privacy reasons, but i don't think it is. It's far more likely that it's because the US has no control over the platform's algorithm, which they fear is feeding Americans media and perspectives that are antithetical to their foreign policy objectives (Blinken and Romney have both stated as much).

A US buyer would be more friendly/responsive to US regulatory influence. That's the only reason this isn't a privacy bill instead of a ban or forced sale.