Pledge of Allegiance

[kersploosh@sh.itjust.works]

One of my favorite truisms: One thing the flag stands for is you don't have to stand for the flag.

[bdonvr@thelemmy.club]

That uh, does seem more tame than the US.

The pledge was every single morning, in my experience AFTER the national anthem and a moment of silence. We had to stand for the whole thing. (And in Texas, also have to do a Texas pledge)

Then if course we had our insanely biased teaching of history, minimizing our genocide and slavery. Forcing us to learn about important founders to a degree that they become sort of semi-god figures.

[tattorack@lemmy.world]

A certain part of your population seems to have forgotten that.

[lemjukes@lemm.ee]

Most people are actually pretty stupid when you think about it. Myself included.

[lemjukes@lemm.ee]

Same vibes as ‘because I said so’

[slaacaa@lemmy.world]

Literal brainwashing. It could be in a distopian movie

[howmanynimons@lemmy.world]

It's completely not a thing in any country I've visited except America. You guys are the gold ribbon looniest.

[sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works]

That's very strange. In the schools I've been to it was just the pledge, and you don't have to stand. They aren't legally allowed to force you to stand or say it, but some schools do anyway.

[datendefekt@feddit.org]

I grew up in the States but never was a citizen. In second grade after a while of this silly ceremony I asked the teacher if I really had to participate, because it didn't really apply to me.
And the teacher was totally cool with it!

It was even wierder afterwards, being the only one sitting and watching everyone.

[cort@lemmy.world]

[machinefab812@discuss.tchncs.de]

That's the nicest thing I've agreed with being said about my country in over a month. Thank you, kind stranger!

[tdawg@lemmy.world]

Right except most kids and teachers don't know about that so the kid still gets forced to do it

[monkdervierte@lemmy.ml]

I'd say you guys value patriotism too much. Typical of an empire too.

Btw, it's what gave rise to the Nazis (among others).

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

It's ok the pledge was written by a communist

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Yeah i didn't partake starting when as a teenager I saw Germans on thr internet expressing concern about it. Nobody said anything it was my right as an American not to pledge my allegiance to America.

[herrbeter@lemmy.world]

1984 speedrun

[petteriskaffari@lemmy.world]

Patriotism is borderline discrimination.

[bongles@lemm.ee]

That's part of the problem of states handling everything so differently. In New York, I had the pledge every morning, that's pretty much national, but nothing else almost ever outside of sports (national anthem). Not only did they know you didn't have to stand, they taught us that in history class.

How can you come together "as a nation" when your education from state to state can be completely different.

[aeonfelis@lemmy.world]

Even if they knew - the hurdle is too high for a kid to go through. And even if they did - they'll probably face retribution from the school for dragging them to court.

[majorhavoc@programming.dev]

You guys are the gold ribbon looniest.

Aw, shucks. Thanks!

I realize it's not a compliment, but we need a win, right now, so we will take it.