Pledge of Allegiance
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That's very strange. In the schools I've been to it was just the pledge, and you don't have to stand. They aren't legally allowed to force you to stand or say it, but some schools do anyway.
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I grew up in the States but never was a citizen. In second grade after a while of this silly ceremony I asked the teacher if I really had to participate, because it didn't really apply to me.
And the teacher was totally cool with it!It was even wierder afterwards, being the only one sitting and watching everyone.
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That's the nicest thing I've agreed with being said about my country in over a month. Thank you, kind stranger!
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Right except most kids and teachers don't know about that so the kid still gets forced to do it
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I'd say you guys value patriotism too much. Typical of an empire too.
Btw, it's what gave rise to the Nazis (among others).
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It's ok the pledge was written by a communist
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Yeah i didn't partake starting when as a teenager I saw Germans on thr internet expressing concern about it. Nobody said anything it was my right as an American not to pledge my allegiance to America.
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1984 speedrun
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Patriotism is borderline discrimination.
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That's part of the problem of states handling everything so differently. In New York, I had the pledge every morning, that's pretty much national, but nothing else almost ever outside of sports (national anthem). Not only did they know you didn't have to stand, they taught us that in history class.
How can you come together "as a nation" when your education from state to state can be completely different.
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Even if they knew - the hurdle is too high for a kid to go through. And even if they did - they'll probably face retribution from the school for dragging them to court.
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You guys are the gold ribbon looniest.
Aw, shucks. Thanks!
I realize it's not a compliment, but we need a win, right now, so we will take it.
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I was 8 when I moved to the US. It was bizarre. Obviously, as an outsider, I felt I had to fit in. I never questioned it. I didn't understand it. I just said the words.
I guess at some point you understand the words (I left the US before then), but by that point it's probably become a habit. It's still the thing that everyone else in the class does. And you still want to fit in.
Never mind understanding the politics of the US that you have the right to not do something that is habitual and seems completely normal. -
you are allowed to say ass
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Even being born into it, it feels weird. I'll stand politely when the national anthem is played at a sporting event, because that feels only slightly odd. But the pledge of allegiance always gave me straight cult vibes, no thanks.
I've seen multiple groups of Australians treat their national anthem with mild irreverence, which feels so much healthier.
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Too much patriotism is because too little of everything else
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As an Australian I can confirm this. Anybody silly enough to act patriotic in any group will be sledged mercilessly.
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Well stop thinking about it.
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Ohhhhh nooooo it's always the "everything bad in America is because of communism" gag
