Scifi was created by neurodivergents and co-opted by normies.
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Okay. So what's the first work of science fiction to you?
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Okay. So what's the first work of science fiction to you?
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Reasonable
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Then I suggest you accept the common interpretation that "Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus", is at least the first modern work of sci-fi.
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Also, jumanji
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being so acoustic about languages you make a book that is a global hit
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Then I suggest you accept the common interpretation that "Frankenstein, or The Modern Prometheus", is at least the first modern work of sci-fi.
I can tell this means a lot to you. I prefer science fiction tho.
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Sounds like isekai.
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If the authors believed magic and the gods to be real, would ancient works like The Epic of Gilgamesh or The Iliad count as science fiction?
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I don't really think so, unless you have a very broad definition of neurodivergence. In which case, yeah sure most all art is made by people who are not balanced happy individuals, now too. If you don't have that black hole of need inside you, you don't need to fill it.
HG Wells
Jules Verne
Mary Shelley
L Frank Baum
HeinleinThey seem like regular minded people just brilliant. I don't think of anyone as a "normie" though, my definition of normal is either it has to be broad enough to encompass a majority of the population, or it's meaningless because nobody is identical to anyone else, all broken in our own way and strong in our own way.
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The worm criticizes the hawk for crawling improperly.
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I don't really think so, unless you have a very broad definition of neurodivergence. In which case, yeah sure most all art is made by people who are not balanced happy individuals, now too. If you don't have that black hole of need inside you, you don't need to fill it.
HG Wells
Jules Verne
Mary Shelley
L Frank Baum
HeinleinThey seem like regular minded people just brilliant. I don't think of anyone as a "normie" though, my definition of normal is either it has to be broad enough to encompass a majority of the population, or it's meaningless because nobody is identical to anyone else, all broken in our own way and strong in our own way.
Black hole of need?
How about just different shapes of people, with differing tastes. Some obsess over money. Others over art.
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Black hole of need?
How about just different shapes of people, with differing tastes. Some obsess over money. Others over art.
Sure, but happy satisfied people aren't usually the ones who progress humanity forward in art or sport. I wouldn't describe it as neurodivergence, but do think it's the people who have a need that most of us don't.
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I view the begining of scif as the 60s maybe late 50s.
If you're making a point about pulp sci fi, the golden era of sci fi was in the early 40s, and there was plenty of pulp sci fi in the decades before then.
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You know, you're both right.
modern sci-fi is indeed a collective thing that has evolved from its roots. The seed that grew into sci-fi was indeed Mary Shelley.
However, that depends on the term modern meaning something different from sci-fi as a whole, and when you cut off the start point of modern. If you count all science based fiction as modern, then Shelley is the defining origin.
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Man, you very clearly don't know what neurodivergent means.
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Man, you very clearly don't know what neurodivergent means.
Oh fuck off - and read a book!
Every character in every book I listed is neurodivergent by the definition on Wikipedia.
There's no winning with some people. What a waste of a comment.
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Oh fuck off - and read a book!
Every character in every book I listed is neurodivergent by the definition on Wikipedia.
There's no winning with some people. What a waste of a comment.
Lol, said the guy that thinks neurodivergent is when from a different culture or ignorant.
