Everybody that is having an issue with the PS4 Pro pricing obviously aren't in the market for a gaming PC.
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@BeAware assuming you are talking about the PS5 (my ps4 pro is a paperweight now lol) I think what it boils down to is if the buyer cares for 4k or not, because if you are looking to game at 1080 or 1440p, you could most certainly get a respectable rig put together for under $700. Before I upgraded to my current 4090 rig, I had a refurbished Dell Optiplex ($200), and an RTX A2000 ($300), and it crushed every game I threw it's way at 1080p high settings.
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@pixelworld_ai oops. Typo!
But yeah...I don't see why anyone *not* wanting 4k would buy one...that's the major selling point now, no?๐คจโ๏ธ
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@BeAware It's still a good deal vs. a PC. Just not nearly as good of deal as the base PS5 was in 2020.
PCPartPicker's Entry Level AMD Gaming Build, upgraded to 2TB NVME & RX 6800 GPU is $830. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/NtFfrH/entry-level-amd-gaming-build
That's pretty similar to the PS5 Pro (has a better Zen 3 CPU, but minus a gamepad).
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@RxBrad can it do 4k?๐คจ
Either way, I like the exclusives.
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@BeAware Most of the complaining that I've seen is that it costs $700, and it doesn't come with a disk drive or the vertical stand. Those are sold separately at an additional $80 and $30 respectively. So for the folks who have a collection of physical games, there is 0 incentive to upgrade.
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@Lorhin that makes sense for those people with OG PS5, but as a person without one, I'm stoked!
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@BeAware Actually, now that I think of it.. Ever since I started using that Lossless Scaling program on Steam, I've graduated to 1440p upscaled to 4K, with 2x frame gen. Haven't played anything demanding yet, but Yakuza 5 maxes out my 144hz TV's fps and the PC barely breaks a sweat.
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@RxBrad and that costs similar to the PS5 Pro?๐คจ
Wild...I have a 3090 super and i9 and struggle to get 60 fps 4k...and if that would've costed anywhere near $700 I'd have been kissing someone's ass.
I might be gaming wrong somehow...
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@BeAware Your PC is already faster than the 5Pro.
Ultra graphics will kick a 4090's ass even, at times. Most PS5 games run at roughly Medium PC graphics settings. To be totally honest with myself, it's often hard to tell the difference between Medium & Ultra.
Medium-High graphics, lean on DLSS, and throw in some Lossless Scaling frame gen (which is essentially what the 5Pro is doing), and you should hit 4K 60fps++ on most anything.
I like my PS5. I just use my PC a lot more.
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@RxBrad ahhh...makes sense.
I still want the exclusives.โ๏ธ
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@BeAware Wait about a year, and the exclusives show up on PC, too, now. The online multiplayer stuff hits PC at the same time.
And the games are cheaper on PC. So that extra $130 for the PC gets recovered after you buy 3-4 games.
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@BeAware Yep, cost 2-4 times that (depending on brand and how much of a powerhouse it is) to do an equivalent or better. I believe someone did a video to match series x and the ps5 and it was 1200-1400 or more (it's been a while). But you could easily drop 2-3k to get a really nice play everything near max for years one.
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@RxBrad oh trust me, I spent WAY more than 830$ for my PC at the time. Like 3x that much... And yeah, I don't feel like waiting a year, that's a big point for me.โ๏ธ
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@ppb1701 that's where I'm at. I have that PC already, now I need something to play exclusives.
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@BeAware Me being cheap overrides me being impatient, every time. :funnyguy:
That's why I'm playing Yakuza 5 and not Baldur's Gate 3 right now.
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@RxBrad for sure.
I suspect you're a frequent browser of /r/patientgamers? Nothing wrong with that.
Priorities are always different. I'm impatient with most everything.
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@BeAware Patient Gaming all the way.
(Also, to answer your original pre-order question, see the Wario64 post I just boosted.)
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@RxBrad I was just linked to a Kotaku article detailing the pre order info. Thanks though!๐ซก
Will be anxiously awaiting Sept. 26th!