I'm sure it's not massively known quite yet, so I'll mention them again:
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Exerra :wee: last edited by
@exerra Legitimate businesses don't make new domains when they're blocked and normal users here don't expect that their followers would sell their posts....unless you do?๐คจ
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!๐ฆ last edited by
@lonelyowl normal users don't expect that their followers would be the ones selling their data.
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Greg Scallan :verified_red:replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
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Owl!๐ฆreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Then "normal users" have a twisted understanding of the word "public". You make a post, don't put any restrictions on it, you don't encrypt it, it is visible to EVERYONE, but you don't expect it to be scraped for by a stranger, for some reason. This kind of brainrot is responsible for a fact that we don't have a normal bsky bridge...
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!๐ฆ last edited by
@lonelyowl nah. I said followers for a reason. Are you selling my posts?
The enemy I know as my friend feels worse than the enemy I don't know at all.
As you can tell, I'm very public. I don't have worries. But others do.
If I set my account to approve follows and actually approve a follower, that's not permission to sell the posts, I think.
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
@lonelyowl though, since I have your permission, I'll let you know when I find a buyer, so I can give you your 0% commission.
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Owl!๐ฆreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
No problem, dude, i'm an anti-copyright extremist anyway, you can assume all my stuff is public domain
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Greg Scallan :verified_red: last edited by
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!๐ฆ last edited by
@lonelyowl me too, but it's just strange to think of allowing someone into your circle explicitly and expecting them to do things with your posts.
In that sense, even private posts could be sold because they allowed a follower.
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Shoesmithlcreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
@BeAware @lonelyowl key word here expect! As they still assume everything is lock up
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Shoesmithlc last edited by
@Shoesmithlc @lonelyowl especially the ones with follower approvals and followers only posts.
This strategy could allow those posts to be sold.
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Shoesmithlcreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
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Owl!๐ฆreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Well, scraping someone's follower-only posts is indeed a dubious thing. From one perspective, it is worth mentioning that "follower-only" posts are in fact not protected, they are broadcasted to everyone anyway, and could be made public by a pleroma mrf policy (like the one annihilation.social is using).
From other perspective it is a rather bad behavior. Anyway, stop assuming your posts here to be "protected", it is dumb and, honestly, dangerous.You still can block people and instances if you don't like them for whatever reason, though.
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!๐ฆ last edited by [email protected]
@lonelyowl sure, that's why I'm posting about it. So that those that find this behavior dubious can easily block them.
Just helping others who may not BeAware such things are possible.
People cannot block stuff they're unaware of.
Furthermore, block evasion is against MANY instances rules.
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Owl!๐ฆreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
Don't forget to also mention that their posts are public, and they should keep that in mind before posting anything, otherwise bad things could happen ๐ง
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!๐ฆ last edited by
@lonelyowl I've said that hundreds of times, no?
If you haven't seen them, I urge you to search my posts. I have at least a few dozen.
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@Shoesmithlc @BeAware @jspath55 at least on Mastodon, there are a whole lot more people who fight for the users!
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Shoesmithlc last edited by
I can't fight for you.
However, I can help you to BeAware of the things I am Aware of, so that you can make your own choices and possibly fight for yourself.
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Exerra :wee:replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
@[email protected] Well, Google has done so in order to get around Chinese censorship (started redirecting google.cn to google.com.hk). I would call them a legitimate business.
Also, on the topic of Google, search engines sell your posts as well! They're usually free for users, but API access is always paid. Google had a paid API, Bing has it, Kagi has it, etc. That means that currently I can pay Kagi to return a post of yours, based on a query, with a snippet (granted, not the full thing). Same goes for enterprise - always paid.
Now, from what I can see, the website doesn't inspire trust, their tactics are invasive and it either intentionally doesn't respect opt-out sometimes (& instance blocking) or has a few bugs that conveniently aren't fixed. So, I don't like the execution. I do like the idea however - index and provide alerts based on keywords. If one is made that is much less invasive, more trustworthy and respects opt-out, I would have no problem with it. Charging for API access and Enterprise is also fine since that kind of service requires infrastructure that isn't exactly cheap.
In summary: Pricing model seems fair to me, and I like the idea but their execution (invasiveness, dubious respect for opt-out & trustworthiness) is bad and I think if it either fixes its flaws or a competitor is made, I would have no problem with it.