I'm sure it's not massively known quite yet, so I'll mention them again:
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Shoesmithlc last edited by
@Shoesmithlc @lonelyowl especially the ones with follower approvals and followers only posts.
This strategy could allow those posts to be sold.
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Shoesmithlcreplied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
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Well, scraping someone's follower-only posts is indeed a dubious thing. From one perspective, it is worth mentioning that "follower-only" posts are in fact not protected, they are broadcasted to everyone anyway, and could be made public by a pleroma mrf policy (like the one annihilation.social is using).
From other perspective it is a rather bad behavior. Anyway, stop assuming your posts here to be "protected", it is dumb and, honestly, dangerous.You still can block people and instances if you don't like them for whatever reason, though.
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Owl!🦉 last edited by [email protected]
@lonelyowl sure, that's why I'm posting about it. So that those that find this behavior dubious can easily block them.
Just helping others who may not BeAware such things are possible.
People cannot block stuff they're unaware of.
Furthermore, block evasion is against MANY instances rules.
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Don't forget to also mention that their posts are public, and they should keep that in mind before posting anything, otherwise bad things could happen 🧐
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@lonelyowl I've said that hundreds of times, no?
If you haven't seen them, I urge you to search my posts. I have at least a few dozen.
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@Shoesmithlc @BeAware @jspath55 at least on Mastodon, there are a whole lot more people who fight for the users!
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Shoesmithlc last edited by
I can't fight for you.
However, I can help you to BeAware of the things I am Aware of, so that you can make your own choices and possibly fight for yourself.
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Exerra :wee:replied to BeAware :fediverse: last edited by
@[email protected] Well, Google has done so in order to get around Chinese censorship (started redirecting google.cn to google.com.hk). I would call them a legitimate business.
Also, on the topic of Google, search engines sell your posts as well! They're usually free for users, but API access is always paid. Google had a paid API, Bing has it, Kagi has it, etc. That means that currently I can pay Kagi to return a post of yours, based on a query, with a snippet (granted, not the full thing). Same goes for enterprise - always paid.
Now, from what I can see, the website doesn't inspire trust, their tactics are invasive and it either intentionally doesn't respect opt-out sometimes (& instance blocking) or has a few bugs that conveniently aren't fixed. So, I don't like the execution. I do like the idea however - index and provide alerts based on keywords. If one is made that is much less invasive, more trustworthy and respects opt-out, I would have no problem with it. Charging for API access and Enterprise is also fine since that kind of service requires infrastructure that isn't exactly cheap.
In summary: Pricing model seems fair to me, and I like the idea but their execution (invasiveness, dubious respect for opt-out & trustworthiness) is bad and I think if it either fixes its flaws or a competitor is made, I would have no problem with it. -
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@exerra and that's fine that you're fine with it.
I'm mostly also fine with it.
However, despitebour values, neither of us can say what other people value. So I make sure to help others BeAware of such things so they can make their own choices.
Especially when, as you said, this one in particular is not complying with people's normal expectations of consent here.
Unfortunately, my interactions with the owner and the fact that they're block evading on purpose, make me feel like he won't do the right thing and respect others' wishes.People have an expectation here of control over where their data goes. I agree, it's a bit dubious when there's 20,000+ instances here. Though, when they make themselves known directly on Fedi with such nonconsensual practices, people should BeAware of their existence.
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BeAware :fediverse:replied to Shoesmithlc last edited by
@Shoesmithlc @egg @jspath55 of course not. You just may not have your fingers on the trigger like admins and some of us on single user instances.
We are responsible for ourselves and users so we have to be on the lookout all the time.
I enjoy such things. Hence the name BeAware
Most people don't have the time, nor want the responsibility and that's perfectly fine.