Some of our browser competitors are all in on Crypto. We are not.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

You can read about why below.

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Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin | Vivaldi Browser

It’s a topic that is practically inescapable these days, whether online or off. But when it comes to cryptocurrency, all that virtually glimmers is not gold.

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JoeBecomeTheSun

@jon Remember that most of the over 8,000 cryptocurrencies in existence are scams, and of those that have real world use cases they are not as private, anonymous, secure or decentralized as their advocates and the popular press regard them as. Goldbacks are vastly superior to bitcoins as an alternative currency. If you still want to buy some bitcoin I would strongly suggest buying gold bars or goldbacks instead. https://www.goldback.com/where-to-buy-goldbacks

Björn

@jon Vivaldi is still closed source last time I looked.
That Vivaldi won't create a crypto currency doesn't make that any less bad.

RandamuMaki

@jon Now you just need to fork away from Chromium so things like Manifest V3 and other Google stuff can remain out of the codebase.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@RandamuMaki

It is not realistic for us to do that. There would be security issues in Chromium and for us to make sure we get fixes to those security issues would become harder and harder.

At Opera we had 100 maintaining Presto. That is more than twice the size of our team. We would need more than that now.

brerb

@[email protected] @[email protected] if I up my $5 monthly donation to $10 would that do it?

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@thaodan @jon What are your concerns? What are you afraid of? Vivaldi is a great browser and the team behind it are good and friendly people. :tony_wee:

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@breadcat @RandamuMaki

Thanks for donating. That is much appreciated. The more donations we get, the more users we get, the more we are able to do.

Marcus Anthony Cyganiak

@jon @breadcat @RandamuMaki

Hi Jon, please provide the link where we can donate to @Vivaldi.

Since the recent WordPress drama began, I’ve been thinking more about platforms I want to donate to, and #Vivaldi is absolutely one of them.

RandamuMaki

@jon Put the call out for how much support you need. In this day of enshittification of the internet at large, companies who stick their necks out to do right by their users will probably be embraced by their community. Note the offers to donate more by @breadcat and @MarcusAnthonyCyganiak I'll add my own two cents if those would help.

RandamuMaki

@MarcusAnthonyCyganiak @jon @breadcat @Vivaldi It's at the bottom of this page, requires a Vivaldi account to log in, and uses Stripe as payment processor; https://vivaldi.net/contribute/

Kari'boka

@jon Would it be in the realm of possibilities to have a Vivaldi Gecko someday?

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@kariboka , I think it is unlikely. It would require a lot of work and it would not make Vivaldi better.

When we evaluated what our options were, we looked at Chromium and Gecko for the most part. We know that starting from scratch would not be feasible for us, having done that before and knowing what it entails.

We found Chromium to be the safer bet.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@RandamuMaki @MarcusAnthonyCyganiak @breadcat @Vivaldi

The login is only required if you want to give a monthly donation. This is to be able to manage the donation.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@MarcusAnthonyCyganiak @breadcat @RandamuMaki @Vivaldi

That is very kind of you.

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Jon S. von Tetzchner

@RandamuMaki @breadcat @MarcusAnthonyCyganiak

Every donation helps. We particularly appreciate monthly donations, but they all help.

vvampa⁂

@jon crypto isnt inherently bad, but it's way too nascent/scammy (for now), so i appreciate keeping it at an arm's distance. at the very least, integrating any sort of crypto features would be a waste of dev resources

Björn

@HalleAndert @jon That it is closed source is my concern? Unless I can built the browser my self it's hard to trust. Further even if there's a source dump from some parts of the browser that doesn't change how open the browser is.

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@thaodan @jon Okay, so you only use completely open source software. I assume that you always check the source code after every application update so that you can trust the software, right? Which browser do you use?

Björn

@HalleAndert @jon At least I'm trying to use completely free software. Point being that
are plenty of free browsers out there. Not just because I wouldn't don't trust binary built by someone else but also to be able to rebuild
the application whenever I need to.
I use Firefox.