At @Vivaldi , we make browsers. Powerful browsers, with more functionality than others, but still browsers.
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Shrirang Kahale on last edited by
So you are saying that our team of 57 just makes a wrapper? Have you tried Vivaldi at all?
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Shrirang Kahalereplied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Shrirang Kahale on last edited by
True. I have done so in the past as well. But the effort the team puts in is pretty massive.
Did you spend enough time with it to try all the features? We have a built in mail client, calendar and feed reader and we provide more flexibility and functionality than any other browser out there.
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Die™ar_old on last edited by
Why should we "jump on the AI train"? Our users are not asking for it and we do not want to either.
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to CubeThoughts on last edited by
You can read all about it here:
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Alex Fürstenau on last edited by
@afuerstenau @Vivaldi @PeterSommerlad
You can read all about it here:
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to tux0r :openbsd: on last edited by
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to dummzeuch on last edited by
If you have not tried Vivaldi fully yet, please have a look. M3 is a very good mail client, I would say. We got a feed reader and calendar as well.
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Mark Reevesreplied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Mark Reeves on last edited by
I nudged on the 2nd bug, but the first one I have not seen. If you can provide a bug with a description, that would be great!
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Die™ar_oldreplied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Die™ar_old on last edited by
We have always made our own decisions as to what technology to include, typically based on user requests. Our users are not asking for AI.
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Jared Zimmerman ✨replied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
@jon don’t you have a mastodon instance? And an email client? And a feed reader? And a calendar?
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Jared Zimmerman ✨ on last edited by
Vivaldi has a lot of features you do not find in any browser. You mention some of them. We do have an email client, feed reader and calendar. We also have very powerful tab handling, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts and quick commands. We even have web panels. So we are very feature rich. We also provide sync functionality between the different browsers, which is fully encrypted. And we are proud to be the only browser company to have our own Mastodon instance. We also provide blogs and forums as well as a way to share themes. We are very focused on bringing what our users want.
Our users are not asking us to be an OS company. They want us to support their OS.
Our users are not asking us to be a search company. There are other, good options out there.
Our users clearly do not want us to be an ad company.
And our users are clear that AI is not something they want us to integrate. If they want to use AI, they can use AI services out there. No need to integrate it.
So we focus on what people want and we are proud of it.
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Jared Zimmerman ✨replied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
@jon Being anti-AI feels like a weird blanket product "strategy" but good luck!
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Jared Zimmerman ✨ on last edited by
We basically focus on what our users want. If we were public, there might be a focus on just doing what others are doing, to get funding. That is not where we are. We just focus on what people need and as you mentioned, it is a lot.
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Philip Cardellareplied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
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Jon S. von Tetzchnerreplied to Philip Cardella on last edited by
It is.
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Philip Cardellareplied to Jon S. von Tetzchner on last edited by
@jon @Vivaldi when I have to have a Chromium based browser I only use Vivaldi.
I would say I prefer Firefox but their self inflicted wound of pursuing AI is a complete and total betrayal and turn off.
I'm glad you folks are out there.
As others have said I wish you were built on Firefox because Mozilla has faults but Google can KMA.