At @Vivaldi , we make browsers. Powerful browsers, with more functionality than others, but still browsers.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

True. I have done so in the past as well. But the effort the team puts in is pretty massive.

Did you spend enough time with it to try all the features? We have a built in mail client, calendar and feed reader and we provide more flexibility and functionality than any other browser out there.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@Refurbished @Vivaldi

Why should we "jump on the AI train"? Our users are not asking for it and we do not want to either.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@boab @Vivaldi

Thanks. It is all described here:

What’s Vivaldi’s business model? | Vivaldi Browser

Some browsers use your data in ad networks, push promoted content or use other invasive methods to fund their development. We don’t.

Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@CubeThoughts @Vivaldi

You can read all about it here:

What’s Vivaldi’s business model? | Vivaldi Browser

Some browsers use your data in ad networks, push promoted content or use other invasive methods to fund their development. We don’t.

Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@afuerstenau @Vivaldi @PeterSommerlad

You can read all about it here:

What’s Vivaldi’s business model? | Vivaldi Browser

Some browsers use your data in ad networks, push promoted content or use other invasive methods to fund their development. We don’t.

Vivaldi Browser (vivaldi.com)

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@tux0r @Vivaldi

I guess we have not had so much requests for it. We try to make Vivaldi available everywhere we can, but for us to add a platform is a major undertaking.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@dummzeuch @Vivaldi

If you have not tried Vivaldi fully yet, please have a look. M3 is a very good mail client, I would say. We got a feed reader and calendar as well.

Mark Reeves

@jon @Vivaldi Two things keep me from switching to Vivaldi, setting aside Chromium at its core:

1. It keeps prompting me to enable notifications every time it updates, after I've already said no. Do not want.
2. Bug VB-107923 (I have a confirmation email, but no URL to cite).

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@heymarkreeves @Vivaldi

I nudged on the 2nd bug, but the first one I have not seen. If you can provide a bug with a description, that would be great!

Die™ar_old

@jon @Vivaldi I don't know. I don't need you to do so. But that also is the case with other companies, but they do it anyway.

Fear of missing out?

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@Refurbished @Vivaldi

We have always made our own decisions as to what technology to include, typically based on user requests. Our users are not asking for AI.

Jared Zimmerman ✨

@jon don’t you have a mastodon instance? And an email client? And a feed reader? And a calendar?

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@jaredzimmerman

Vivaldi has a lot of features you do not find in any browser. You mention some of them. We do have an email client, feed reader and calendar. We also have very powerful tab handling, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts and quick commands. We even have web panels. So we are very feature rich. We also provide sync functionality between the different browsers, which is fully encrypted. And we are proud to be the only browser company to have our own Mastodon instance. We also provide blogs and forums as well as a way to share themes. We are very focused on bringing what our users want.

Our users are not asking us to be an OS company. They want us to support their OS.

Our users are not asking us to be a search company. There are other, good options out there.

Our users clearly do not want us to be an ad company.

And our users are clear that AI is not something they want us to integrate. If they want to use AI, they can use AI services out there. No need to integrate it.

So we focus on what people want and we are proud of it.

Jared Zimmerman ✨

@jon Being anti-AI feels like a weird blanket product "strategy" but good luck!

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@jaredzimmerman

We basically focus on what our users want. If we were public, there might be a focus on just doing what others are doing, to get funding. That is not where we are. We just focus on what people need and as you mentioned, it is a lot.

Philip Cardella

@jon @Vivaldi isn't your browser built on Chromium?

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@philip_cardella @Vivaldi

It is.

Philip Cardella

@jon @Vivaldi when I have to have a Chromium based browser I only use Vivaldi.

I would say I prefer Firefox but their self inflicted wound of pursuing AI is a complete and total betrayal and turn off.

I'm glad you folks are out there.

As others have said I wish you were built on Firefox because Mozilla has faults but Google can KMA.

Jon S. von Tetzchner

@philip_cardella @Vivaldi

Ideally we would have liked to build our own core, but having done that before, we knew that would not be viable.

So we were left with basically two choices and the safest bet was Chromium. We feel this is a strong codebase and having had to deal with compatibility issues in the past, we feel this was the best choice we could make.

We do a lot of work to make this Chromium based release as strong as possible. We have features not found in any other browser and we have more settings and flexibility than any other browser. We do listen as well.

Thanks for your support.

Vivaldi

@fablog

We recommend looking through our forum (https://forum.vivaldi.net/) first to see if the issue you're encountering has been discussed there and whether there are suggestions for a fix you can apply yourself or updates about the dev team working on it.

If you don't find anything relevant there, you can start a new discussion yourself and/or file a detailed bug report on https://vivaldi.com/bugreport/.