"Today Trump confirmed that he intends to bypass normal legal constraints on his actions by declaring a national emergency on his first day in office in order to launch his mass deportation of undocumented migrants."
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Supergrobireplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy that all sounds like that if they get their say, a lot of Americans (those who are not millionaires) will feel a hard economic hit .
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@gooba42 Oh, I think fixating on the mass deportations is a very good thing to do. The cruelty that is being ushered in with the plan to start those the very first day he takes office, with the military at his disposal: what an opening script for dehumanization, violence, cruelty that will affect every one of us.
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@wdlindsy What if they turn their guns around? Just a thought, many in the military hate him. Afterall, he called them sucker's and losers, then he defiled their sacred ground, Arlington.
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lupus_blackfurreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
TBH...
Given the number of Chump voters that will find themselves "surprised" to be in these crosshairs, I unfortunately find myself in the position of not being able to work up sympathy for them.
Many were duped.
Some voted Chump anyway cause "it won't affect me".
Guess what? Surprise!!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lupus_blackfur last edited by
@lupus_blackfur I find myself adopting a very cold-eyed, clear-headed, sympathy-free approach, too, as I prepare for the almost unfathomable cruelty I expect to be unleashed on all of us due to the horrific choices some of us have made.
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@luv_wins I think once a society walks down the path of using its military to police and do violence to its citizens and targeted minority communities, violence will always proliferate, unfortunately.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Supergrobi last edited by
@supergrobi I honestly don't know how one makes a large chunk of the population smarter, though, when it doesn't want to be smarter. I think especially of the white evangelicals who form the solid base of Trump's power, and who do not vote on the basis of information but on the basis of cultic religious ideas impervious to information.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Carsten Franke last edited by
@carstenfranke Something tells me not.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Weed cat Picks last edited by
@greycat I'm not grasping your point. You'll have to explain it to me.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Pedro Molina comments on why people REALLY voted for Trump and what they want:
The cruelty is the point.
#Trump #fascism #immigrants #deportation #MassDeportation #cruelty #violence
/12https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/11/19/2287105/-Cartoon-Fearing-the-worst
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@wdlindsy I think the psychological distance between "immigrants" and "regular people" gives the wrong people comfort.
It adds the layer of "but I wasn't an immigrant so I didn't speak up".
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My nabe is predominantly Pakistani Muslims and their American-born kids. It got a lot more Trump votes than you’d have expected. I don’t know what these fools were thinking.
No Americans, whatever their circumstances, will get through this unscathed—
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@JoeChip Yes, for sure.
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@MollyNYC "No Americans, whatever their circumstances, will get through this unscathed": you are exactly right.
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@gooba42 But I think this is exactly why we need to keep our eyes firmly on what's going to happen to immigrants as soon as Trump takes office: It never stops with the targeted group.
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Weed cat Picksreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@[email protected] it is (apparently) a norm not to declare emergencies in order to justify deploying the military on US soil.
There's apparently no law preventing this, it just "isn't done." Until it is. And that's not a great way to run things. -
Supergrobireplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Hm, maybe my point was that these people will need to learn it the hard way that voting for Trump isn't in their own favor
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Σειληνός (Seilēnós)replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy The hit on Social Security & Medicare will be devastating.
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There are just so many competing narratives on why people voted as they did.
There is the "they are cruel and evil" narrative, the economic hardship narrative, and many others.
Normally I just spilt the difference, but at this point I have no idea what to believe without becoming my own scholar on the subject.
