"Today Trump confirmed that he intends to bypass normal legal constraints on his actions by declaring a national emergency on his first day in office in order to launch his mass deportation of undocumented migrants."
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@wdlindsy I think the psychological distance between "immigrants" and "regular people" gives the wrong people comfort.
It adds the layer of "but I wasn't an immigrant so I didn't speak up".
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My nabe is predominantly Pakistani Muslims and their American-born kids. It got a lot more Trump votes than you’d have expected. I don’t know what these fools were thinking.
No Americans, whatever their circumstances, will get through this unscathed—
Whatever the Trump Admin is allowed to do to immigrants, women, LGBTQs et al, they’ll eventually do to the rest of us. -
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@JoeChip Yes, for sure.
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@MollyNYC "No Americans, whatever their circumstances, will get through this unscathed": you are exactly right.
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@gooba42 But I think this is exactly why we need to keep our eyes firmly on what's going to happen to immigrants as soon as Trump takes office: It never stops with the targeted group.
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Weed cat Picksreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@[email protected] it is (apparently) a norm not to declare emergencies in order to justify deploying the military on US soil.
There's apparently no law preventing this, it just "isn't done." Until it is. And that's not a great way to run things. -
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@wdlindsy Hm, maybe my point was that these people will need to learn it the hard way that voting for Trump isn't in their own favor
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Σειληνός (Seilēnós)replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy The hit on Social Security & Medicare will be devastating.
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There are just so many competing narratives on why people voted as they did.
There is the "they are cruel and evil" narrative, the economic hardship narrative, and many others.
Normally I just spilt the difference, but at this point I have no idea what to believe without becoming my own scholar on the subject.
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LESS THAN 25%!
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@BassRck66 @lupus_blackfur Sorry, but I don't know what you're referring to when you say less than 25%.
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@zagone If you see rounding up millions of people, incarcerating and deporting them, as something other than cruelty, then you and I see things rather differently.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Σειληνός (Seilēnós) last edited by
@Seilenos Definitely.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Supergrobi last edited by
@supergrobi That I agree is correct.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Weed cat Picks last edited by
@greycat Definitely not a great way to run things. A big step on the fascist path.
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That's the % of people that voted trump, in USA.
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@BassRck66 @lupus_blackfur I see. The percent of those who voted for him as tabulated against the whole population of eligible voters, many of whom did not vote, you mean?
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"Found it!"
The actual outcome of this election with •the whole US population• as the denominator:
22% voted for Harris
23% voted for Trump
<1% voted for other
26% eligible but did not vote*
28% not eligible to vote* (whether by choice or by voter suppression)
Numbers might shift a tiny bit as last votes are counted, but this is close to the final tally.
Paul Cantrell
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@wdlindsy Putting a dollar figure on such ugly inhumanity feels so… cold. Yet it is an undeniable part of the hideous equation, and the one that will get the attention of the fiscally-minded-but-hard-hearted.
