Guns

Pavel Chichikov

I agree. I would much rather rely on myself for protection. Forget trusting the cops, I don't trust the prosecutors. There are so many liberal prosecutors who are just drop cases, and judges who set low bail, or refuse to impose certain sentence types on repeat offenders, etc. People who want to take away guns are retards.

Pavel Chichikov

Countries that "don't have much gun crime" = countries with acid attacks

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There are all kinds of discussions we can have about this, not the least of which is that “no guns” simply isn’t an option in a country with 500 million firearms and no central firearm registry.

But, really, all that stuff is beside the point. Guns are the ultimate equalizer. They equalize the weak and the strong. An 80 year old grandma can defend herself against a 25 year old man using a gun. A suppressed populace can defend themselves against a tyrannical government using guns.

Gun crime has negligible impact on most Americans; we have about half as many firearm homicides as traffic deaths annually.

Philosophically, the gun community feels having that equalizer and balance against tyranny is more important than the impacts of gun crime. Whether or not more gun control will decrease gun crime is irrelevant if a person feels that free firearm access is the more important of the two issues.

Btw, regardless of your views, if you come to the US you should shoot some guns. It’s fun and you’ll be glad you did.

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Will it help my wife's best friend who was shot in the stomach six times by her husband when she got up in the middle of the night to eat something in the kitchen?

Let me introduce you to a revolutionary view about gun violence.

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It is called reality with gems like, "96% of murder-suicide victims are female."

Pavel Chichikov

these people are such idiots. besides, the founding fathers didn't exclusively intend the second amendment to be used against petty thieves or violent criminals... they wanted it to be used to resist tyranny in all its forms. One form of tyranny is prosecutors dropping violent felons cases, judges setting low bail on repeat violent offenders, and federal governments throwing the borders open and granting special protection to violent criminals that come across the border. The government at best can punish crime, but it can never defend us. I am more than willing to accept school shootings if it means I can shoot someone that I deem a threat if necessary.

Pavel Chichikov

"how would you stop a fascist with a gun that wants to put you in a camp"

If they were really a fascist, I would shoot them.

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Wow, so we have too many guns so no reason to regulate has to be one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard. It is like common sense showed up to have you shart in their face

Guns are the ultimate equalizer sounds like something a weak assed little Nazi would say. What is every other modern civilized country not need them then? It is like you look at the worst case and say it is now the best case

I could give a shit about the feels of gun nutters. To think we have to appease homicidal radicals is fucking bonkers.

I think most people will pass on the shooting thing. There is a lot more to the USA than a bunch of gun waving lunatics.

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More protesters would have been shot. The movement would have been demonized even more than it was.

The protests were already overwhelming peaceful. To re-envision history saying "moars guns" would have helped is pretty bizarre gun nutters nonsense.

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I would trust an officer over Ultragagginggunnut any day of the week.

False dichotomy. Those aren't the only choices.

In your entire comment, you failed to realize that "Doomsider" is a perfectly viable option.

With "Doomsider" being an option for you, "officer" should be considered a distant second.

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It's a reference to the movie Dirty Harry

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When you actually want to respond to what I said I will be waiting.

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Certainly. Thank you for your patience, and for the opportunity for discussion.

I respectfully and summarily reject the underlying premise of what you were saying. Your comment did not consider that you are the person best capable of providing your own "protection".

I submit that the regulatory environment needs to recognize and respect that fact.

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Still waiting

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This made me laugh. You sound like Philomena Cunk!

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I have traveled most of the country and 95% of Americans are normal people who just want the best for the people around them. They just have different perspectives on what that means.

You should let your hate go, my friend. I promise you’ll be happier for it.

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What are you waiting for? I have responded twice before this comment. Your comment is premised on a false dichotomy. When we eliminate that premise, the remainder of your comment doesn't make much sense.

One route forward: You could support your position on a different premise. Another route: You could abandon your previous position and adopt a new one. I eagerly await your choice.

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Same and is clear 95% are not gun nutters.

Reality is a harsh mistress and your gun rhetoric is absolute garbage.

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Nice try, let me turn on my Rivalarrival translator: Ah yes it is coming in clear now. You did not like what I said but you have no rebuttal so you hyper focused on one thing. You invented a false premise and remembered to project that like any good bullshitter.

Still waiting.

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That does make it better!

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I dont see a problem with owning guns. Its just taken too lightly in the states. To get a gun where im at, you need to get certified - theoretical, physical and psychological tests are done. And no one starts pissing about personal freedoms if they fail these tests. I think you also need to be member of a shooting club. Point is, you need to demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon responsibly. Im not one to confuse correlation with causation but... you dont see many stories of shootings here.