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[pbaesse@bolha.one]

@Andromxda why?? @fediverse @shnizmuffin

[omegalemmy@discuss.online]

It would help with a lot, yah

[andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

There's nothing inherently wrong with Sup, but it's very new and hasn't had the chance to stand the test of time yet. It also has very few users and isn't as intuitive as straightforward as Signal, which is basically just a carbon copy of WhatsApp (UI/UX-wise). Network effect is a very important aspect.
Federated networks aren't easy to explain to users, this is already a huge issue for Mastodon, and it's probably why it hasn't taken over social media.
As other comments here have pointed out, Sup would be a closer alternative to stuff like Facebook Messenger than to WhatsApp. I'd say Signal is still the best option for private and secure instant messaging.

[littleomid@feddit.org]

What about Simplex over Matrix?

[moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

I don't like centralized services. I also never pretended the opposite.

This is for me and my usage. The caveat is that not everyone is in the tech. We can look at the disastrous communication of Mastodon. They focussed and lots of people promoting it focussed too on the “decentralized argument”. This backfired. It was not clear for the public. A good strategy would have been to market Mastodon as an alternative with an easy process to create an account on the general website. Tech people would have chosen another server and do their stuffs. People would learn progressively the decentralization part and move from server to server. This takes time. We have to put great strategies in places and be patient to bring the public to the fedi.

[exfed@lemm.ee]

I fear signal has to be mentioned a thousand times from all directions before they "trust" it.

Yes. A thousand times yes. The risk profiles humans naturally adapted to are not well aligned with the artificial risk profiles we see today. I can't fault someone for not transcending their own natural instincts, because heaven knows I can't.

[deway@lemmy.world]

And they're not going to leave WhatsApp for Sup? either.
All I'm saying is we've had an alternative for decades, even before WA was created, we don't need another one, we need the one we already have to have more success.

[deway@lemmy.world]

Pidgin is a client, not a specific protocol.

[warmaster@lemmy.world]

Sure, it looks great. But it doesn't have the popularity of Matrix, which is already less popular than XMPP which has enjoyed decent adoption since it's inception.

[suoko@feddit.it]

So Snapchat is lossinh money with its service?
I don't think so

[nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee]

I know, I just remember I used to use it with jabber xmpp but I think after everyone got gtalk and then everyone got cellphones everyone moved away from those types of clients

[emperor@feddit.uk]

We use Open Collective to fund the instance and it has been pretty smooth sailing. Would definitely recommend to anyone running an instance.

[emperor@feddit.uk]

Was started by the Friendica developer but it is more of a federated CMS where Friendica is more of a social network, although they share similar DNA and can do some similar things. They are now being developed by different teams so will tend to diverge more over time.

[emperor@feddit.uk]

Let's hope this helps dansup get past the recent unpleasantness and he can delegate more. His output is amazing but burnout is a concern.

[deway@lemmy.world]

Fun fact, Google Talk and Facebook used to be compatible with XMPP.

[pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

incorrect

[perfectly_boiled_pizza@lemmy.world]

I think you may have misunderstood what I wrote.

Snapchat makes money through showing you ads. RCS is something very different. It is not social media. RCS has no ads in the same way that SMS has no ads.

Telecom providers have to spend money to support RCS. Telecom providers don't want to spend money on RCS if it's not going to earn them money. They believe RCS is not going to earn them money because the customers aren't interested. The customers aren't interested because they can already chat with each other through social media and chat apps.

[nudenewt@lemm.ee]

Care to elaborate? Genuinely i interested as to why that is

[nudenewt@lemm.ee]

What are some good examples of apks to use in regards to this use-case?

[astro_ray@piefed.social]

I don't know if you know about it, but there's this new community [email protected]
They got some nice discussion about how to on-board more people on here.