Firefox Developer Edition
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@julian said:
@psychobunny keeps going on about the virtues of debugging phone environments on the desktop
I hook up my phone to my PC via Chrome remote debugger.
But otherwise I use FF and I don't actually see any difference here, those tools have always been there for me, press
ctrl-shift-K
(although the dark skin is something you have to toggle on yourself). And yeah the eyedrop thing is neat, and the 3D inspector makes you feel like pro-mode even though it doesn't really help muchEDIT: Scratch what I said... Oh man, that Valence thing is cool. Downloading this right now!
EDIT2: Nvm, it's not as cool as I thought, I think I'll stick to debugging on a real phone
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Now that they've released this special "Developer Edition" (even though right now it's just normal FF + a skin and some addons), do you think you'll remove the dev tools from the normal version?
As long as the normal and Dev editions use the same version of the same layout engine /JS engine / etc. (AKA behave exactly the same =P) I'd be fine with that personally, because removing some of the features non-technical users don't really understand might help make Firefox more popular again, which increases the value of the time and effort I spent debugging my projects in Firefox.
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I use Firefox for most of my web development and also really like what they have done with WebIDE. I will definitely give it a spin. Personally I am a bit worried about side effects of separating the developer version from a normal browser. I like being able to quickly open developer tools on any friends machine when I see an issue and start inspecting. Hopefully they will never remove developer tools from Firefox, but I guess with the direction they are going that may happen.
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@arasbm said:
I like being able to quickly open developer tools on any friends machine when I see an issue and start inspecting.
I stay the away from my friends' machines, or else they start expecting me to magically fix everything for them haha.
Though I do hope they make the Developer Edition portable by default, so I can just put it on a USB stick in my pocket. Or else I might have to add it to a Tails ISO =P -
I love the darkness, makes me feel like I'm in a browser made for hacking lol. I just like dark colors overall since I can read better. I do enjoy their efforts though since it has those add-ons and all. Especially that eyedrop tpp, really handy when I need to copy certain colors from gradients.
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@psychobunny said:
And yeah the eyedrop thing is neat, and the 3D inspector makes you feel like pro-mode even though it doesn't really help much
These things have been in Firefox for at least 4 major versions.
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Firefox is my independent choice.
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@Schamper said:
@psychobunny said:
And yeah the eyedrop thing is neat, and the 3D inspector makes you feel like pro-mode even though it doesn't really help much
These things have been in Firefox for at least 4 major versions.
The 3D inspector has been there for what feels like years but the eyedrop tool is probably no more than a few months old at most. Or at least I haven't been paying enough attention
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@psychobunny I've not seen the eyedropper tool before.
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@psychobunny apparently since version 31, and since we're now at 35 (at least the Aurora channel is), my rough guess was actually quite accurate