To be fair, Daytime Me is no saint, either

jawa21

I'm going to be sincere here. If you are regularly tired, lacking sleep, or have the "Leave me alone until I've had coffee" archetype; look for work at a different shift. Seriously. I was completely miserable at my java web dev job right out of college circa 2001. After a couple of years, I believed that I could not do my hobby as a job because I was completely miserable. Time passes with shitty dev jobs until 2003, I somehow got an apprenticeship doing machining. It was 2nd shift exclusively. It revolutionized me as a person. I'm 2nd shift, through and through. I guess that my point here is that if your eyes don't naturally open really early, there are options and you should listen to your body.

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I'm not even going to look at the clock right now. It's not worth it.

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Isn't that dude sitting too close to the monitor at home?

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Daytime me is cursing that decision right now. In at 1a. Up at 6a.

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I used to think I was a night owl, so I got an overnight shift. Was up most of the day at times. Eventually a doctor recommended I take provigil (which didn't do much). Moved to a different job on second shift. Still miserable sleep. Learned enough that I got promoted into a 24/7 on-call role with lots of 5am start times for various projects and 9-5 meeting availability. Misery (which should not be a surprise).

I suspect my body isn't on a 24-hour cycle. But good luck getting a doctor to take that seriously.

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You borrow it from the next morning. A few years ago I went through a phase where I would get up at something like 4AM, voluntarily, and in the morning and early afternoon I was fully awake and alert like I usually am at night. It actually felt really good to be functional and productive when the sun was out, but the problem is I would tend to get sleepy and pass out at around 8pm when I wanted to keep doing things. My theory is that your body needs a balance of sleep, awake but not very active time, and active time, and it is all controlled by when you fall asleep which determines where your free time is to do the things you actually enjoy doing.

Like when I woke up early, I would usually start the day doing things that I would at night - playing video games and scrolling through memes primarily, and during that time I could also get housework done, my (at the time) university homework, and planning for the week. I realized that it was the same productive time but only shifted because of when I had the free time to so.

Eventually I returned to night life because the time limit on my free time imposed by when my obligations for the day start versus how much sleep I am willing to sacrifice and move my unproductive time to work hours is a trade off I am very willing to make.

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This is how I think about the past version of me who manages my Reminders app. That son of a bitch is constantly telling me what to do and I hate it. He's overly ambitious and pretends we're not lazy af.

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getting old is kind of terrifying.

I'm only 32. but now I think of the 22 year old version of myself who was a degenerate who would stay up until 5 in the morning, sleep until past noon, and do it all over again for 1-2 weeks at a time.

I can't even comprehend who that person is, they sound like an alien. but no, that was me.

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pretends we're not lazy af

I've gotten flak for posting this before, but:

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If you can, find a neurologist who specializes in sleep disorders. I know someone who described something similar after self-referring to a sleep doc and the doctor's first words were, essentially, "you're on an adjusted sleep cycle naturally, but we're going to start tackling things in order of importance based on your symptoms and needs." Was fantastic for them to get a doc who took it seriously, was sympathetic, but also realistic that biology might not mesh with what the world required of that person.

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what you don’t know can’t hurt you

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The Civilization Series has entered the chat

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yes but let us not forget what motivates us in the first place: that it is also possible to dedicate an entire night to terraria and win

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I‘m 30 and still like this. Granted, COVID changed a lot on how I see things. Sadly COVID made me quit partying.

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Yeah, I agree overall in that I do far less work than I used to because I've got older and realized I only have to do as much as is required to keep my job. On the other hand, there's the lazy where I don't take care of a thing that is actually for me, like picking up a prescription when the weather sucks.

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slingshotted

The proper term is slingshat.

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oh man thats what i do now. but i work until midnight so i kind of have an excuse

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If I go to bed when I'm not tired then I'll end up getting even less sleep than if I'd stayed up.

AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet

At least nighttime you just wants to play video games. When I was a young man, nighttime me wanted to go out dancing, get shit faced, get into fistfights, and paint the town red. That's a lot harder to recover from at work the next day than a late night video game session.

Victor

No sympathy from me lol, sounds like something awful to do to yourself (and others).