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10-03-2012
01:15 PM

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Q (number format) Multiply

I'm working on a project that uses a 32-bit accumulator, which it's input is a 32-bit step size (unsigned Q30.2) value. The accumulator can rollover when preforming a large number of iterations or working with a large step size. I need to be able to calculate the final value of the 32-bit accumulator overtime. The step size will be added to the accumulator every 8 ns. The number of iterations (8 ns increment) will be giving as a 32-bit clk_offset value.

Will the following code work? amplitude = CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(CONV_INTEGER(CONV_INTEGER(intra_clk_offset) * CONV_INTEGER(step_size)), 32); Since the step_size is a Q30.2 number, shouldn't I shift the value left? Thanks,Link Copied

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10-03-2012
02:40 PM

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Urgh. The problem of fixed point using non-fixed point libraries, and the use of non-standard legacy VHDL libraries. (and why o why does everything have to be a std_logic_vector - you can use integers and unsigned and any other type in ports you know)

Anyway, back to code. You are going to overflow big time. If box tr_clk_offset and step_size are 32 bits, the output needs to be 64 bits, not 32., with a Q62.2 output. PS. Have a look into the new fixed point VHDL libraries (Quartus may one day support the real VHDL 2008 files, but until then you can easily use the VHDL93 versions avaiable from www.vhdl.org/fphdl) it allows you to do stuff like this:```
signal tr_clk_offset : ufixed(31 downto 0);
signal step_size : ufixed(29 downto -2); --Q30.2
signal amplitude : ufixed(61 downto -2);
amplitude <= tr_clk_offset * step_size;
```

Look - no hideous type converting (which is what you get when you insist everything has to be a std_logic_vector. Btw, if you decide to use this package, you'll have to forget about using std_logic_unsigned, std_logic_signed and std_logic_arith and use numeric_std instead (which is only a good thing).
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10-03-2012
02:42 PM

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10-03-2012
09:49 PM

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Thanks for your help.

I'll consider using the package, but I'll need to convert all the code over. If I continue down the same path using std_logic_vector, I understand that the product will be a Q62.2 value. How would I scale that value to be 32 bits? Would I use the upper 32-bits? temp = CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR(CONV_INTEGER(CONV_INTEGER(in tra_clk_offset) * CONV_INTEGER(step_size)), 64); amplitude = temp(64 downto 32); I know "CONV_STD_LOGIC_VECTOR" will not work with a 64 bit value, just using this as an example.
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10-04-2012
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