https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-84/
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https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-84/
During a FediForum session about Fediscovery, Mastodon CTO Renaud Chaput confirmed that between 8% and 10% of active accounts have opted into Mastodon’s search, a year after it has been released. It indicates one of the fundamental challenges of any design that is opt-in: very few people will change the default settings, irregardless of what the settings are about. As Discovery and Search systems gain value by covering a bigger network, it shows the fundamental tensions that Mastodon gGmbH will have to grapple with while building Fediscovery.
yeah that sounds about right
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cc: [email protected]replied to cc: [email protected] last edited by
i still think Fedi servers should show a PvP/PvE switch when you set up an account:
- one configures your account to opt into all the discovery stuff and to opt into future discovery stuff
- the other defaults you to unlisted, requires follow requests, turns on no-robot meta tags, opts you out of discoverable/indexable, hides your social graph, etc. and opts you out of future discovery stuff
then you can customize it from there if you care, but it's getting too complicated
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halcy:icosahedron:replied to cc: [email protected] last edited by
@vyr pve adds a filter to hide any posts with "meta" in a CW or hashtag, pvp instead creates a column for them
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cc: [email protected]replied to Erin 💽✨ last edited by
@erincandescent @halcy is there a leaderboard? there should be a leaderboard. ladder ranked posting
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Erin 💽✨replied to cc: [email protected] last edited by
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@erincandescent @vyr more seriously actually, thinking about user archetypes, I wonder how many people on fedi…. post. like, what fraction of users posts regularly. Traditionally that number isn’t actually very high on social networks, right? Tons of people who only read posts, *maybe* sometimes reply. So you’d want to see the percent of people with discovery on versus that.
(Then again, my feeling is and has been that it’ll be higher here than on, say, twitter, because everything seems so much more by and for people who treat social media as Big Chatroom rather than News Aggregator)
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Gabbo the wafrn guy :neocat_floof_devil_256: (not a vampire)replied to cc: [email protected] last edited by@vyr I like the idea"I care about privacy" vs "I want to be famous"
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@gabboman i've heard it on here as "Big Fedi vs. Small Fedi" (i think that phrase first came from @evan but if not i don't know where he got it)
this would be the per-user version. a UX challenge for instance server or even client devs.
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kouhai, Breaker of Cachesreplied to Erin 💽✨ last edited by
@erincandescent @vyr @halcy this is so terrible lol
this is objectively the worst, but I love it in its terror
it’s a real Robespierre of a proposal.
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kouhai, Breaker of Cachesreplied to kouhai last edited by
@erincandescent @vyr @halcy but, y’know what it needs? Tanks. rolling armor for the full crush.
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Laurens Hofreplied to cc: [email protected] last edited by
@vyr yeah 100%, defaults matter so incredible much, and design should factor in the assumptions that most people wont change any default settings about anything
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:PUA: Shlee fucked around andreplied to cc: [email protected] last edited by
@vyr TBH.. that's actually kind of the perfect pitch.
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@shlee i've used, built, and/or sketched out enough Fedi user preferences pages to know that is too many knobs. so begin with one big switch that you have to pick an option on, get people started off right for what they're intending with their account