modern #hebrew is substantially different from biblical hebrew, but this is mostly because hebrew changed substantially between the tanakh and the mishnah, under aramaic influence.
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רבֿקהלע דאָס קעצעלעreplied to Jackie (aka Queen Antifa) 🌹:debian_logo::linux: last edited by
@burnoutqueen There are also small differences that can probably be chalked up to European influence
For example:
מאוד טוב instead of טוב מאוד
(me'od tov instead of tov me'od, adverb before adjective instead of adjective before adverb)
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to רבֿקהלע דאָס קעצעלע last edited by
@dikleyt @burnoutqueen as a native speaker I've never heard anyone saying the adverb first, except for when they can't yet think of a word for the adjective, and even then only with quantifiers - "very", "not so much", "kinda", etc.
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רבֿקהלע דאָס קעצעלעreplied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @burnoutqueen that makes sense. i know I've heard a lot of speakers go like "ze me'od, me'od..." while searching for the adjective
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to רבֿקהלע דאָס קעצעלע last edited by
@dikleyt @laxla @burnoutqueen
the Hebrew Prescriptivism Academy wrote about "מאוד טוב" being wrong, which like all prescriptivist documents, serves as a great proof of this constriction existing.
I can say it definitely exists (though I couldn't isolate the cases where it's used just by thinking), and the negative "לא מאוד טוב" is even more common. -
Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
@Yuvalne @dikleyt @burnoutqueen tbh, the Hebrew Academy is so out-of-touch I wouldn't be surprised if they're pre-announcing things as wrong to justify their existence
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @dikleyt @burnoutqueen I mean, I'm a gen z native Hebrew speaker, and "מאוד טוב" sounds extremely ear jarring.
Maybe it's a Jerusalemic Hebrew thing?
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @dikleyt @burnoutqueen
sometimes they do good stuff, but most of the time it's stuff like them dunking on Mizrahis for saying למזוג אוכל. -
Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by
@Yuvalne @dikleyt @burnoutqueen They're trying to reform thought by reforming language, a practice debunked, what was it, 50 years ago?
It's a political institution pretending to be a linguistic one.
It's the best example, ever, of what's wrong with the Israeli education system --- learning to succeed at the tests, instead of life, and when the education system brings bad results, change reality to match education instead of changing education to match reality.
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @dikleyt @burnoutqueen
on its own it's jarring, but in context I find it fine.
checking HeWiki talk pages (which I consider organic enough for this purpose) I've found:
מאוד טוב המידע הזה
https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%98%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%98%D7%95
הערך הזה מאוד חשוב
https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91
העריכה מאוד מאוד מאוד טובה
https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A3_%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%95#%D7%9C%D7%90_%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9A_%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%A7_%D7%98%D7%95%D7%91
הערך הזה הוא ערך מאוד טוב
https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%99_%D7%94%D7%9E%D7%AA
הספר הזה סוקר מאוד טוב את המידע הזה
https://he.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%97%D7%94:%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%93%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%90%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%95%D7%90%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%99%D7%9D/%D7%A8/%D7%A8%D7%91_%D7%A8%D7%97%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99_%D7%90%29
and perhaps most importantly, מחזמר מאוד פוטרי
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%96%D7%9E%D7%A8_%D7%9E%D7%90%D7%95%D7%93_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%99?wprov=sfla1 -
Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️ last edited by [email protected]
@Yuvalne @dikleyt @burnoutqueen huh, yeah. But I'd say that more means "מאוד" is an adverb. I'm a confused idiot, of course it is an adverb.