things i would like to see in mastodon that pleroma has been able to do for years:

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@thisismissem @FinchHaven @ariadne you can have MRF policies publicly listed and if an instance tampers more than they promise, it creates a (dis)reputation

also i might be wrong but i think public log of applied actions would be trivial compared to MRF itself

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@xarvos @thisismissem @FinchHaven yes, precisely. it is a non-issue in practice with 6 years of MRF.

Tom Bellin :picardfacepalm:

@ariadne @spacehobo @andrew I was just pondering about how the challenge of instance moderation increases exponentially with the ease of setting up a federated server. And how the critical lack of sufficient tools for community moderation is actually being masked by how finicky it appears to be to set up a mastodon instance.

(I lucked into one of the unicorn instances of the fediverse apparently)

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@tob @spacehobo @andrew oh yes, the difficulty of setting up mastodon has absolutely been pitched to me before as a "safety feature"

Andrew Dunham

@ariadne @thisismissem @FinchHaven Also, respectfully: it's not even particularly difficult to patch Mastodon to do this! I'm not going to draw the rest of the owl, but it took me about five minutes to find the `process_audience` function and `visibility_from_audience` functions under `ActivityPub::Activity::[...]`; between that and patching `Status.create`, I'm pretty sure I could figure out a way to make all non-public statuses from a specific instance, user, etc. be public instead of private. And I wouldn't call myself a particularly proficient Ruby developer, either.

In my personal opinion, the harm that is currently being caused by not having flexible, extensible, and powerful moderation tooling is *vastly* outweighed by the harm that could be caused by making it easier for instance admins to do something that they're already able to do.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@andrew @thisismissem @FinchHaven yeah exactly.

sure, a moderation tooling framework can be abused to tamper with messages in a way that is anti-social. no doubt about it. moderation tooling has to be powerful in order to do its job.

but that reality does not justify the current *nothing* that mastodon developers are doing about anti-abuse since forever.

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@thisismissem it’s just photodna

pasta la vida

@ariadne this series rocks and I wish there was more of it.

panda :verified:

@ariadne scheduled postings are available in the API but never made it into the official UI.

UI updates have been rolling a bit slow from my pov

Ariadne Conill 🐰:therian:

@panda what does scheduled postings have to do with admin-restricted moderation features ?