things i would like to see in mastodon that pleroma has been able to do for years:
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
- automatic mitigation of server-DoSing hellthreads (2018)
- automatic rejection of messages which reference unwanted remote emojis (2023)
- automatic follow spam blocking (2019)
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And Human (it/its)replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@ariadne What does the third item in this list mean in laymanβs terms?
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to And Human (it/its) on last edited by
@AndHuman if i have a local user who i know is going to piss off, say, mastodon.art, i can defederate *that user* from mastodon.art before it ever becomes a problem
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
- normalization of message HTML and mention/hashtag formatting (2019)
- normalization of inline mentions and hashtag presence (2019)
- filtering of activitystreams content types (2019)
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
i could keep going, but i think i've made my point
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react loading skeletonreplied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@ariadne so we should just run pleroma?
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to react loading skeleton on last edited by
@ionizedgirl no. there are plenty of reasons to not run pleroma. but Mastodon could actually have moderation tools that are good if Gargron wanted to make them.
i just find it strange that the software that has good moderation tools gets tarnished as "freeze peach" when the dominant software which has *terrible* moderation tools is allowed to just keep having terrible moderation tools and polluting the fediverse with the fallout of its terrible moderation design.
oh right, because one was made by queer people and can be set up easily, and the other was made by a white guy
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@ionizedgirl like this is highly frustrating to me, because the only reason that Mastodon ever gains new moderation tools is because mastodon.social has a crisis where they have to clean up their mess immediately or servers will start defederating them because the mess is too large for the rest of us to deal with.
when will they hold Gargron accountable? well, they can't, because they've been told that alternative options are evil.
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@ariadne what are the downsides to running pleroma?
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to react loading skeleton on last edited by
@ionizedgirl well, for one, it is built on an RDF data model, which is cool, but that data model is stored in PostgreSQL instead of a real graph database, so this results in a lot of "admin fun" from time to time
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spadufreplied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@ariadne Isn't defederating a hashtag just filtering? Mastodon does have that.
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to spaduf on last edited by
@spaduf not at server-wide level
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@ariadne or are we ta lking about features for admins.
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to spaduf on last edited by
@spaduf this thread is an entire listing of server-wide policies that can be installed by an instance's moderation staff
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Packets From The Voidreplied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@ariadne @ionizedgirl
I'll be honest seeing a bunch of nazi shit on the featured instances and a policy of "we won't ban fash" in the dev discussions put me off even thinking about the software for like four years.(I just checked and one of the "featured instances" on pleroma.social had swastika and sonnenrad on the linked page.)
Like, I agree that the reputation has seriously slowed the propagation of better moderation tools. However I really don't think that this reputation is any surprise.
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@UntaggedTransmitter @ariadne there are forks but I don't know what the relationship between them and pleroma is
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Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to react loading skeleton on last edited by
@ionizedgirl @UntaggedTransmitter akkoma is basically a hard fork at this point and exists because of this specific problem
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delta :akko_bean: :verified_gay:replied to Ariadne Conill π°:therian: on last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] i can confirm, pleroma's database design is not great, i have a 1.5 year old single user akkoma instance with a 10gb database, and have known many akkoma/pleroma admins who've had to deal with the rot as it is colloquially known
pleroma/akkoma in general, has good features and ideas but its all built on top of a foundation made of sand and spaghetti, it works most of the time but you best hope there is a god to save you if you ever have to debug or fix a technical issue in the thing
admin-FE is also just kinda terrible, it works and thats the most that can be said about it, it is a pile of barely sorted settings, excluding the ones that aren't in there -
Ariadne Conill π°:therian:replied to delta :akko_bean: :verified_gay: on last edited by
@delta @ionizedgirl i've considered forking Pleroma before and fixing the database to use normal SQL relations to represent the data and just accepting that a universal AS2/AP server probably isn't feasible at scale
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@ariadne @UntaggedTransmitter does that mean it's missing the tools you listed